When I posted his amputation photos last month, it raised quite a lot of conversation, so I’ve followed that up with an interview — click through to read that now and come back here to comment!
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472 responses to “Amputation Interview Posted”
Exploding Boy – I hate to sound bigoted by saying this, but if you think that voluntary amputees who intentionally cause a serious infection should have to pay for their own medical bills, then how do you feel about homeless people? There are plenty of them (especially here in Los Angeles) who could certainly get a job, but there are those that simply don’t want to. Should they not be treated unless they get a job? They are surely far larger a “burden” to society than the relatively small number of voluntary amputees who intentionally induce infection to receive an amputation. Furthermore, what about prison inmates who are locked up because they intentionally hurt/killed someone else? Should they not be treated because they CAUSED a burden on society by harming someone else (who then likely had to go to the hospital and use those resources you mention)? Drug addicts or alcoholics? Should military personnel who voluntarily joined the service not be available for state-funded (read: funded from taxes) therapy programs because they VOLUNTARILY put themselves in a psychologically taxing situation? What about firemen? Police? The list of people who are INTENTIONALLY putting themselves in harms way EVERY DAY could go on forever. They have generally accepted the risks, and agree that it’s something they have to live with. But a lot of their support programs and treatment is paid for by tax payers money. How’s that for a “burden on society”?
I’m curious find out what (if any) of the actual procedure/treatment for an amputation as a result of a serious infection is typically covered by medical insurance (for those in countries with private health care systems). My insurance company says that, depending on the circumstances, they would cover between 90% and %100 of the cost of the procedure/treatment (including physical therapy, medication, and therapy), and will pay for ONE prosthesis up to $8,500. Alternatively, they will put up to $8,500 towards the cost of a prosthesis. The rest would have to come out of my pocket. Now, I have pretty decent insurance, so I’d like to get the “average”.
Exploding Boy – I hate to sound bigoted by saying this, but if you think that voluntary amputees who intentionally cause a serious infection should have to pay for their own medical bills, then how do you feel about homeless people? There are plenty of them (especially here in Los Angeles) who could certainly get a job, but there are those that simply don’t want to. Should they not be treated unless they get a job? They are surely far larger a “burden” to society than the relatively small number of voluntary amputees who intentionally induce infection to receive an amputation. Furthermore, what about prison inmates who are locked up because they intentionally hurt/killed someone else? Should they not be treated because they CAUSED a burden on society by harming someone else (who then likely had to go to the hospital and use those resources you mention)? Drug addicts or alcoholics? Should military personnel who voluntarily joined the service not be available for state-funded (read: funded from taxes) therapy programs because they VOLUNTARILY put themselves in a psychologically taxing situation? What about firemen? Police? The list of people who are INTENTIONALLY putting themselves in harms way EVERY DAY could go on forever. They have generally accepted the risks, and agree that it’s something they have to live with. But a lot of their support programs and treatment is paid for by tax payers money. How’s that for a “burden on society”?
I’m curious find out what (if any) of the actual procedure/treatment for an amputation as a result of a serious infection is typically covered by medical insurance (for those in countries with private health care systems). My insurance company says that, depending on the circumstances, they would cover between 90% and %100 of the cost of the procedure/treatment (including physical therapy, medication, and therapy), and will pay for ONE prosthesis up to $8,500. Alternatively, they will put up to $8,500 towards the cost of a prosthesis. The rest would have to come out of my pocket. Now, I have pretty decent insurance, so I’d like to get the “average”.
I’m kind of curious as to whether dude would even want a prothesis? Everyone is kind of assuming he does but the way he was speaking it sounded like a dangling half-leg is part of the appeal? Wouldn’t it defeat the purpose..?
I’m kind of curious as to whether dude would even want a prothesis? Everyone is kind of assuming he does but the way he was speaking it sounded like a dangling half-leg is part of the appeal? Wouldn’t it defeat the purpose..?
“Should military personnel who voluntarily joined the service not be available for state-funded (read: funded from taxes) therapy programs because they VOLUNTARILY put themselves in a psychologically taxing situation? What about firemen? Police? ”
They are all helping people (although in some cases the military could be excluded!) and are not putting themselves in danger for entirely selfless reasons. These are all sort of jobs that need to be done, he doesnt need to amputate anything.
The point about criminals is a very interesting one though,
“Should military personnel who voluntarily joined the service not be available for state-funded (read: funded from taxes) therapy programs because they VOLUNTARILY put themselves in a psychologically taxing situation? What about firemen? Police? ”
They are all helping people (although in some cases the military could be excluded!) and are not putting themselves in danger for entirely selfless reasons. These are all sort of jobs that need to be done, he doesnt need to amputate anything.
The point about criminals is a very interesting one though,
Noah Matteson – It’s clear that you’re barely literate, but would you PLEASE learn how to use capital letters and paragraph breaks? It would make your ill-reasoned rants soooo much easier to read. Thanks.
Noah Matteson – It’s clear that you’re barely literate, but would you PLEASE learn how to use capital letters and paragraph breaks? It would make your ill-reasoned rants soooo much easier to read. Thanks.
Corky, I take your point, but I’d prefer not to muddy the waters by trying to draw false analogies. Approaching voluntary amputation strictly as a body modification it seems reasonable to require people who desire such modifications to assume all the accompanying costs, doesn’t it? I mean, however much you may love tattoos, would want to pay for someone else’s?
But beyond that, it’s interesting that many people are making a parallel between voluntary amputation and pathology, even while meaning not to: smokers and alcoholics suffer from addiction; homeless people are often mentally ill; obese people are often trying unsuccessfully to fight their genes. If we’re comparing voluntary amputees with these people, aren’t we really saying that they’re exhibiting symptoms of pathology as well?
Similarly I’d argue that comparisons with prison inmates and military personnel are also invalid. When we incarcerate a criminal we assume near-total responsibility for that person. If we didn’t, we’d really be no better as a society than the criminals we’re jailing.
Military personell are a whole other thing. Many, many convincing arguments could be made in support of providing treatment for them, which I’m not going to clutter this page with. Ditto firefighters and police.
Corky, I take your point, but I’d prefer not to muddy the waters by trying to draw false analogies. Approaching voluntary amputation strictly as a body modification it seems reasonable to require people who desire such modifications to assume all the accompanying costs, doesn’t it? I mean, however much you may love tattoos, would want to pay for someone else’s?
But beyond that, it’s interesting that many people are making a parallel between voluntary amputation and pathology, even while meaning not to: smokers and alcoholics suffer from addiction; homeless people are often mentally ill; obese people are often trying unsuccessfully to fight their genes. If we’re comparing voluntary amputees with these people, aren’t we really saying that they’re exhibiting symptoms of pathology as well?
Similarly I’d argue that comparisons with prison inmates and military personnel are also invalid. When we incarcerate a criminal we assume near-total responsibility for that person. If we didn’t, we’d really be no better as a society than the criminals we’re jailing.
Military personell are a whole other thing. Many, many convincing arguments could be made in support of providing treatment for them, which I’m not going to clutter this page with. Ditto firefighters and police.
“Noah Matteson – It’s clear that you’re barely literate, but would you PLEASE learn how to use capital letters and paragraph breaks? It would make your ill-reasoned rants soooo much easier to read. Thanks.” fist off, i’m too fucking tired every time i rant, because that’s when i’m able to use the fucking computer. second, this is not an english class. this is a blog website for people to discuss, debate, and enjoy pieces of artwork. when artists can use a fucking symbol as a name, i can go without using capitals or fucking using paragraph breaks.
BITCH!!!!!!!!!!! there’s your capitals.
“Noah Matteson – It’s clear that you’re barely literate, but would you PLEASE learn how to use capital letters and paragraph breaks? It would make your ill-reasoned rants soooo much easier to read. Thanks.” fist off, i’m too fucking tired every time i rant, because that’s when i’m able to use the fucking computer. second, this is not an english class. this is a blog website for people to discuss, debate, and enjoy pieces of artwork. when artists can use a fucking symbol as a name, i can go without using capitals or fucking using paragraph breaks.
BITCH!!!!!!!!!!! there’s your capitals.
Noah Matteson English is quite useful in discussing and debating. Maybe you should try it out sometime, then you wont sound like so much of an undeducated, whinging, knob 🙂
Noah Matteson English is quite useful in discussing and debating. Maybe you should try it out sometime, then you wont sound like so much of an undeducated, whinging, knob 🙂
wow, and what does posting comments like that last one add to the debate other than reminding me of a playground for children? How very brave of you to post anonymously. Whether you agree with him or not at least Noah has enough balls to post his name. Shame we can’t say the same for everyone here.
wow, and what does posting comments like that last one add to the debate other than reminding me of a playground for children? How very brave of you to post anonymously. Whether you agree with him or not at least Noah has enough balls to post his name. Shame we can’t say the same for everyone here.
That argument about being a “burden to society” is falacious at best. As a disabled man (some people think that we are a burden to society) I can tell you that I’d rather pay taxes so people can have voluntary amputations than to pay so my government can train people to kill other persons, i.e. soldiers. Some of you say that he shouldn’t be entitled to the “rights” of the disabled. In case you don’t know in most places in the world life is not peachy for a disabled person, so fuck that! you wanna deny him the right to do whatever he pleses to his own body and then deny him the right to function in a society because he’s not entitled to those “rights” in your minds? That’s bullshit!. Some of you say that he caused it, well, what about the people who got disabled in accidents? One could argue that when they were in those cars or motorcycles they put themselves at risk, so they caused it and they shouldn’t be entitled to disabled rights. I don’t know where you live, but if you live in a place where being disabled is an advantage because of those “rights”, tell me where it is, I’d love to go to that utopic place. Sorry if I don’t write correctly but english is not my first language and it’s kinda rusty because I haven’t spoken and written it in some time.
That argument about being a “burden to society” is falacious at best. As a disabled man (some people think that we are a burden to society) I can tell you that I’d rather pay taxes so people can have voluntary amputations than to pay so my government can train people to kill other persons, i.e. soldiers. Some of you say that he shouldn’t be entitled to the “rights” of the disabled. In case you don’t know in most places in the world life is not peachy for a disabled person, so fuck that! you wanna deny him the right to do whatever he pleses to his own body and then deny him the right to function in a society because he’s not entitled to those “rights” in your minds? That’s bullshit!. Some of you say that he caused it, well, what about the people who got disabled in accidents? One could argue that when they were in those cars or motorcycles they put themselves at risk, so they caused it and they shouldn’t be entitled to disabled rights. I don’t know where you live, but if you live in a place where being disabled is an advantage because of those “rights”, tell me where it is, I’d love to go to that utopic place. Sorry if I don’t write correctly but english is not my first language and it’s kinda rusty because I haven’t spoken and written it in some time.
I think you’re missing the point like several others. It’s less about the degree of burden than about the appropriateness of passing any of one’s own personal body modification costs on to other people. Also, it’s not about some magical benefit to being disabled, it’s about the few resources that are available.
I think you’re missing the point like several others. It’s less about the degree of burden than about the appropriateness of passing any of one’s own personal body modification costs on to other people. Also, it’s not about some magical benefit to being disabled, it’s about the few resources that are available.
When we are in a crowd or on the subway, when we are missing fingers toes or more people often stare. I like it when people stare at my missing fingers or toes. We are all different – some people feel uncomfortable when people stare. I would not mind if I was missing more parts.
When we are in a crowd or on the subway, when we are missing fingers toes or more people often stare. I like it when people stare at my missing fingers or toes. We are all different – some people feel uncomfortable when people stare. I would not mind if I was missing more parts.
I have mixed emotions to this. I believe everyone has the right to make personal choices as long as those choices don’t infringe on the lives or livelyhood of others. But my heart aches for this man who can’t see he was perfectly created, and feels he needs to “modify” his body in order to reach a state that he is already in, perfection. I don’t mean perfect as in without flaw, I mean as he was intended. These issues and practices are exactly the concerns that people need to be discussing, because they do affect us all be it directly or indirectly.
I have mixed emotions to this. I believe everyone has the right to make personal choices as long as those choices don’t infringe on the lives or livelyhood of others. But my heart aches for this man who can’t see he was perfectly created, and feels he needs to “modify” his body in order to reach a state that he is already in, perfection. I don’t mean perfect as in without flaw, I mean as he was intended. These issues and practices are exactly the concerns that people need to be discussing, because they do affect us all be it directly or indirectly.
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His wife? None of our chuffing business! When did BME become “Dear [insert female name]“?
I am fascinated with his amputations and totally intrigued by them – I would love to toouch them and explore his sensations. Personally, I want to lose my little toes (not nearly as extreme) and find this interview inspirational – thank you both. I wish him all the best in his quest for AKA and look forward to reading more – and I don’t a flying fuck whether he tells his wife because it’s got nothing to do with me!
*two cents coming right up*
His wife? None of our chuffing business! When did BME become “Dear [insert female name]“?
I am fascinated with his amputations and totally intrigued by them – I would love to toouch them and explore his sensations. Personally, I want to lose my little toes (not nearly as extreme) and find this interview inspirational – thank you both. I wish him all the best in his quest for AKA and look forward to reading more – and I don’t a flying fuck whether he tells his wife because it’s got nothing to do with me!
It’s repulsive that this man is married and obviously has no consideration for his wife’s feelings, both emotional and sexual. If he wants modify his body, safely, then that is his choice, but he has a commitment to his partner to be honest because of how much this impacts her. I’m sure she’s worried sick every time he has an infection or an amputation, and the fact that he wants to achieve a penectomy without consulting her is totally selfish. He is putting his sexual needs completely over hers, he may think its would be exciting to have sex with a penectomy, but he has no idea how she will feel about spending the rest of her life having non-vaginal intercourse, short of using a strap on. He needs to discuss this with her! He says he “doesn’t care” if people find out this is voluntary, but with his lack of consideration and compassion towards his wife, her finding our has the potential to wreck their marriage, and rightfully so!
I also think he sounds very unintelligent in assuring himself he can control an infection with diabetic medication. He is a construction worker, not a doctor.
It’s repulsive that this man is married and obviously has no consideration for his wife’s feelings, both emotional and sexual. If he wants modify his body, safely, then that is his choice, but he has a commitment to his partner to be honest because of how much this impacts her. I’m sure she’s worried sick every time he has an infection or an amputation, and the fact that he wants to achieve a penectomy without consulting her is totally selfish. He is putting his sexual needs completely over hers, he may think its would be exciting to have sex with a penectomy, but he has no idea how she will feel about spending the rest of her life having non-vaginal intercourse, short of using a strap on. He needs to discuss this with her! He says he “doesn’t care” if people find out this is voluntary, but with his lack of consideration and compassion towards his wife, her finding our has the potential to wreck their marriage, and rightfully so!
I also think he sounds very unintelligent in assuring himself he can control an infection with diabetic medication. He is a construction worker, not a doctor.
Alas, woe me.
Where have we gone to?
The comments on this thread and this person’s actions are the culmination of the era of (mostly western, well- fed and never missed-anything in their lives idiots, spoiled, humanoid-lived morons) relativistic and pluralistic thought. Essentially, everything goes.
I must point out that my understanding is that having, believing and standing for ideals not based on severe logic, which is the mere thing that differentiates our existence from other entities of this world, and instead doing so for ideals based on emotions in general, and emotional highs of any kind specifically, or addictions to these for that matter to say the least, is like confusing the concepts of price and value, morality and law, or faith and trust by analogy, and justifying the end and the means without discretion on any level and without any point of reference to reality. Yet everyone is so self-absorbed with their BM kink(s) and fetishes that they have taken for granted that this may also be the case for this dude. I was struck by the fact that hardly any one of the two-hundred plus comments hypothesized that this person may be severely mentally ill and, or, depressed. I am not certain where the line for BM ought to be for it not to be considered treading into paths driven by serious mental illness, but what is clear is that for some people, there is obviously lack of clarity of mind, and some screws are missing, something’s wrong inside their scull. BDSM people do sewing and all sorts of painful things with the intent to enter the trance-like feeling induced by the state of pain, fine I don’t like that sick painful foolishness either, but apart from really toiling and stressing their body, at least they still have it, more or less intact, save for a few scars. This dude however is absolutely sick and perverse. His actions and the way some people in the forum accept them, consist a travesty of logic, pleasure, sexuality and coherent, sane reasoning.
The brain cannot always differentiate with clarity what consists pain and what pleasure, as the parts in the brain responsible for this are cross-linked, and to many people’s advantage, this has been a source of great pleasure and experimenting. Nonetheless, no other sane animal save for a human in exceptional situations -under normal circumstances – would mutilate, amputate, or otherwise damage the self, or let alone commit suicide, or find any of these offering any kind of pleasure. It is beyond doubt that these perversions are the products of a sick mind. Behind all this, perhaps the force driving such sick actions is to be found somewhere inside the brain’s constitution which has obviously for whatever reason been damaged, and specifically it must be a para-natural error, either inflicted by socialization, psychology, genetics, or medication. You all must admit that at least to some extent his addiction to pleasure induced by pain plays a role in his liking such extreme, perverse sadomasochism. Nonetheless, the voice of the many insists that such bullshit is ok, and ought to be accepted, lest we be seen as close-minded and infringing upon this person’s freedoms, or pursuit for pleasure and happiness. Ah, come on, this is bullshit and you all know it. Nonetheless, what people believe in their majority is irrelevant to the truth, and even if often their opinion might coincide with that of the truth, there still remains the chance that equally often the majority’s rule of opinion may be wrong. If i vote that a dog is a female and three million for whatever reason vote he is male, there might be the chance when we check him that I’m right or they are, or none of us, since the dog might be a hermaphrodite. Likewise, this clown of a man, unworthy of his existence, is thought by others as sane and having a right to such perverse happiness, when I would insist he has a right to severe medical attention, as do many other weirdos with extremely perverse fetishes and kinks that damage their health and body irreversibly.
But that’s what our society does today; our society is pluralistic to the bone and everything is accepted to a so-said maintain freedom and freedom of speech. Yet, it supports anything but the very core of these ideas, since we have gone from ‘you are permitted to talk about anything as you please’, to ‘you can do and say everything since anything goes’. Everyone is free to speak and do their nonsense today, and may even be praised for it. Even further, someone is free to say “good for him”, but not free to say “what a schizofrenic freak is this clown” for he would be deemed ‘close-minded’… Dudes, let’s face the truth: this person needs medical help. He’s a mess. Let’s not look at the tree, more specifically the blade of grass, and forget about the forest: this dude’s emotions are beyond the weight of impactful significance here; even more, who gives a hair of a rat’s tail about his wife’s feelings? This issue enters the spectrum of morality and existentialism by far and wide. It engulfs philosophies of nihilism, of relativism, of deconstructionalism and destructivism, as well as constitutes perhaps what I think would be the pinnacle of self-centered individualistic activity without any care for consequences whatsoever to others and above all, to the self. This is a crime and an ungrateful disgrace to say the least to the very gift of life and the healthy body this man has been bestowed with by nature. And for those that might dare accuse me or even try to pin my arguments as religious or fanatically political, by ascribing these to Jesus, Buddha, Allah, Satan, or Hitler and any other asshole, I say fuck all of these too. Surely, this man is not bothering me with his body clown-play, I don’t even give a fuck about this ‘taxpayers money’ bullshit people say, or him using the medical system by pivoting on his diabetes to take on his kink. That’s nonsense. What we’re dealing with here, is a total lack of respect for life itself. And if you don’t get it, you are so fucking deeply confused my friend. That’s where it all comes down to, not his right to pleasure, whatever way he may find it possible to get pleasure.
If you got a light kink, fine, if you do scary shit, just stop, shut the fuck up and go see a shrink, likewise if you have a friend or know anyone who is in this situation. Further, as a hypothesis, fucker is a butcher, and no one can guarantee me, after he’s reduced himself to just one arm and one leg attached to a sac of a belly, that he may not – frustrated by the restriction to do more to himself and his now perhaps boring (for him) or frustrating experience as a disabled person – go on and start chopping off little kids’ toes or mine and yours or your own friends’, with or without their consent. Anyway, this is plain babble, as most people will disregard every single word I’ve said, shut off as they are into their own mental way of seeing life through the lens of their kinks and absurd sexual behaviour. We ought to use the gift of life and sexual pleasure wisely, lest we engage in a game where more of what we initially strayed off with as a perversion is constantly required in a game of insatiable recurrence to keep us into the “high” and “thrill” that we initially sought, with catastrophic consequences for us and others. Most of you, who have started into such nonsense, not just amputation, may find it unsatisfying to merely have simple sex as nature intended it. You can argue otherwise. Deep inside, you may all know the truth, but perhaps cannot help but follow this different path, given the wiring of your brain, your socialization, or even the circumstances and your experiences based on the previous two, which act thus as a vicious cycle feeding and enstrengthening this perversion and thereby solidifying your possible perverted condition even more as right and justified. You may never be able to free yourselves from such a burden or turn around from such a path, since the lens which you have chosen to wear, paints the world with the logic and reasoning produced by your sexual preferences. As I said, what we’re dealing with here, is a total lack of respect for life itself. Farewell.
Alas, woe me.
Where have we gone to?
The comments on this thread and this person’s actions are the culmination of the era of (mostly western, well- fed and never missed-anything in their lives idiots, spoiled, humanoid-lived morons) relativistic and pluralistic thought. Essentially, everything goes.
I must point out that my understanding is that having, believing and standing for ideals not based on severe logic, which is the mere thing that differentiates our existence from other entities of this world, and instead doing so for ideals based on emotions in general, and emotional highs of any kind specifically, or addictions to these for that matter to say the least, is like confusing the concepts of price and value, morality and law, or faith and trust by analogy, and justifying the end and the means without discretion on any level and without any point of reference to reality. Yet everyone is so self-absorbed with their BM kink(s) and fetishes that they have taken for granted that this may also be the case for this dude. I was struck by the fact that hardly any one of the two-hundred plus comments hypothesized that this person may be severely mentally ill and, or, depressed. I am not certain where the line for BM ought to be for it not to be considered treading into paths driven by serious mental illness, but what is clear is that for some people, there is obviously lack of clarity of mind, and some screws are missing, something’s wrong inside their scull. BDSM people do sewing and all sorts of painful things with the intent to enter the trance-like feeling induced by the state of pain, fine I don’t like that sick painful foolishness either, but apart from really toiling and stressing their body, at least they still have it, more or less intact, save for a few scars. This dude however is absolutely sick and perverse. His actions and the way some people in the forum accept them, consist a travesty of logic, pleasure, sexuality and coherent, sane reasoning.
The brain cannot always differentiate with clarity what consists pain and what pleasure, as the parts in the brain responsible for this are cross-linked, and to many people’s advantage, this has been a source of great pleasure and experimenting. Nonetheless, no other sane animal save for a human in exceptional situations -under normal circumstances – would mutilate, amputate, or otherwise damage the self, or let alone commit suicide, or find any of these offering any kind of pleasure. It is beyond doubt that these perversions are the products of a sick mind. Behind all this, perhaps the force driving such sick actions is to be found somewhere inside the brain’s constitution which has obviously for whatever reason been damaged, and specifically it must be a para-natural error, either inflicted by socialization, psychology, genetics, or medication. You all must admit that at least to some extent his addiction to pleasure induced by pain plays a role in his liking such extreme, perverse sadomasochism. Nonetheless, the voice of the many insists that such bullshit is ok, and ought to be accepted, lest we be seen as close-minded and infringing upon this person’s freedoms, or pursuit for pleasure and happiness. Ah, come on, this is bullshit and you all know it. Nonetheless, what people believe in their majority is irrelevant to the truth, and even if often their opinion might coincide with that of the truth, there still remains the chance that equally often the majority’s rule of opinion may be wrong. If i vote that a dog is a female and three million for whatever reason vote he is male, there might be the chance when we check him that I’m right or they are, or none of us, since the dog might be a hermaphrodite. Likewise, this clown of a man, unworthy of his existence, is thought by others as sane and having a right to such perverse happiness, when I would insist he has a right to severe medical attention, as do many other weirdos with extremely perverse fetishes and kinks that damage their health and body irreversibly.
But that’s what our society does today; our society is pluralistic to the bone and everything is accepted to a so-said maintain freedom and freedom of speech. Yet, it supports anything but the very core of these ideas, since we have gone from ‘you are permitted to talk about anything as you please’, to ‘you can do and say everything since anything goes’. Everyone is free to speak and do their nonsense today, and may even be praised for it. Even further, someone is free to say “good for him”, but not free to say “what a schizofrenic freak is this clown” for he would be deemed ‘close-minded’… Dudes, let’s face the truth: this person needs medical help. He’s a mess. Let’s not look at the tree, more specifically the blade of grass, and forget about the forest: this dude’s emotions are beyond the weight of impactful significance here; even more, who gives a hair of a rat’s tail about his wife’s feelings? This issue enters the spectrum of morality and existentialism by far and wide. It engulfs philosophies of nihilism, of relativism, of deconstructionalism and destructivism, as well as constitutes perhaps what I think would be the pinnacle of self-centered individualistic activity without any care for consequences whatsoever to others and above all, to the self. This is a crime and an ungrateful disgrace to say the least to the very gift of life and the healthy body this man has been bestowed with by nature. And for those that might dare accuse me or even try to pin my arguments as religious or fanatically political, by ascribing these to Jesus, Buddha, Allah, Satan, or Hitler and any other asshole, I say fuck all of these too. Surely, this man is not bothering me with his body clown-play, I don’t even give a fuck about this ‘taxpayers money’ bullshit people say, or him using the medical system by pivoting on his diabetes to take on his kink. That’s nonsense. What we’re dealing with here, is a total lack of respect for life itself. And if you don’t get it, you are so fucking deeply confused my friend. That’s where it all comes down to, not his right to pleasure, whatever way he may find it possible to get pleasure.
If you got a light kink, fine, if you do scary shit, just stop, shut the fuck up and go see a shrink, likewise if you have a friend or know anyone who is in this situation. Further, as a hypothesis, fucker is a butcher, and no one can guarantee me, after he’s reduced himself to just one arm and one leg attached to a sac of a belly, that he may not – frustrated by the restriction to do more to himself and his now perhaps boring (for him) or frustrating experience as a disabled person – go on and start chopping off little kids’ toes or mine and yours or your own friends’, with or without their consent. Anyway, this is plain babble, as most people will disregard every single word I’ve said, shut off as they are into their own mental way of seeing life through the lens of their kinks and absurd sexual behaviour. We ought to use the gift of life and sexual pleasure wisely, lest we engage in a game where more of what we initially strayed off with as a perversion is constantly required in a game of insatiable recurrence to keep us into the “high” and “thrill” that we initially sought, with catastrophic consequences for us and others. Most of you, who have started into such nonsense, not just amputation, may find it unsatisfying to merely have simple sex as nature intended it. You can argue otherwise. Deep inside, you may all know the truth, but perhaps cannot help but follow this different path, given the wiring of your brain, your socialization, or even the circumstances and your experiences based on the previous two, which act thus as a vicious cycle feeding and enstrengthening this perversion and thereby solidifying your possible perverted condition even more as right and justified. You may never be able to free yourselves from such a burden or turn around from such a path, since the lens which you have chosen to wear, paints the world with the logic and reasoning produced by your sexual preferences. As I said, what we’re dealing with here, is a total lack of respect for life itself. Farewell.
To Dp
So, you’re somehow “enlightened” by something more than “severe logic” and you know what happens to everyone and you decided to honour us with your words of wisdom and advice? fuck you! If you want to “use the gift of life and sexual pleasure wisely” that’s your business, stay the fuck away of the others’s business. Yoy also demonstrate your total lack of knowledge of the themes and your complete ignorace, when you theorize about what we can find and can not find satisfying. Who the fuck are you to know? you talk about “sex the way nature intended it”. Well, it would be good if you found a book about sexuality in nature and saw that sex in nature involves rape, kidnapping, murdering of competition and cubs of the female, cannibalism and all other things, so don’t give us that shit about “nature” and what makes us different to other animals, you obviously don’t know it, do whatever you please with your sexuality, body and life, and get away from ours.
To Dp
So, you’re somehow “enlightened” by something more than “severe logic” and you know what happens to everyone and you decided to honour us with your words of wisdom and advice? fuck you! If you want to “use the gift of life and sexual pleasure wisely” that’s your business, stay the fuck away of the others’s business. Yoy also demonstrate your total lack of knowledge of the themes and your complete ignorace, when you theorize about what we can find and can not find satisfying. Who the fuck are you to know? you talk about “sex the way nature intended it”. Well, it would be good if you found a book about sexuality in nature and saw that sex in nature involves rape, kidnapping, murdering of competition and cubs of the female, cannibalism and all other things, so don’t give us that shit about “nature” and what makes us different to other animals, you obviously don’t know it, do whatever you please with your sexuality, body and life, and get away from ours.
To the other persons reading, sorry about the typos and my errors, as I said before, my english is kinda rusty and my keyboard is not working properly.
To the other persons reading, sorry about the typos and my errors, as I said before, my english is kinda rusty and my keyboard is not working properly.
I personally don’t care what he or other people do with their bodies.
What I think this comes down to for me is the fact that this man is lying to all the people around him, aside from those that share the same interests.
This demonstrates, maybe on a subconscious level that he feels something is wrong with what he is doing or he would not lie about it.
It also has nothing to do with what society thinks or feels, because he stated that he doesn’t care what they think, or that they look at him.
If that was honestly the case here, would he lie about how he lost these limbs or other various parts of his body? I think not.
I personally don’t care what he or other people do with their bodies.
What I think this comes down to for me is the fact that this man is lying to all the people around him, aside from those that share the same interests.
This demonstrates, maybe on a subconscious level that he feels something is wrong with what he is doing or he would not lie about it.
It also has nothing to do with what society thinks or feels, because he stated that he doesn’t care what they think, or that they look at him.
If that was honestly the case here, would he lie about how he lost these limbs or other various parts of his body? I think not.
Well, I have to say I really envy you, you are doing what you want to…I would love to be an aka and wear a c leg and have it protruding from a pair of white footy shorts, I realise I would have to either have to smash my leg so badly it would have to be amped or simply lay on a railway line, although there is always the dry ice solution, learning to walk and put on my pros would take time… I am surpsied that when your foot was tidied up it wasn’t amped properly to wear a pros symes type amps are awkward and ugly too., I wait with intrepidation to see what the next cut is… sincerely the best of luck, weare supposed to hve a freedom of choice well, we have made ours ..
Well, I have to say I really envy you, you are doing what you want to…I would love to be an aka and wear a c leg and have it protruding from a pair of white footy shorts, I realise I would have to either have to smash my leg so badly it would have to be amped or simply lay on a railway line, although there is always the dry ice solution, learning to walk and put on my pros would take time… I am surpsied that when your foot was tidied up it wasn’t amped properly to wear a pros symes type amps are awkward and ugly too., I wait with intrepidation to see what the next cut is… sincerely the best of luck, weare supposed to hve a freedom of choice well, we have made ours ..
Very interesting. Does he have a website, myspace,etc.?
Very interesting. Does he have a website, myspace,etc.?
I feel utterly sick. I can’t help that. That’s my reaction to hearing this story and seeing the pictures. I feel very sick in my stomach even thinking of cutting off my toe. But here’s my point: I think that if he wants to do it, thats great. No one’s saying he shouldn’t do it and I’m thankful for that. I respect this mans individuality. I’m sure he is a very interesting person to know.
I feel utterly sick. I can’t help that. That’s my reaction to hearing this story and seeing the pictures. I feel very sick in my stomach even thinking of cutting off my toe. But here’s my point: I think that if he wants to do it, thats great. No one’s saying he shouldn’t do it and I’m thankful for that. I respect this mans individuality. I’m sure he is a very interesting person to know.
This guy has some real guts, you’ve gotta respect people who are willing to go the extra mile that most people wouldn’t trek to make themselves look just the way they want.
The only thing about this that I found utterly appalling was that his wife doesn’t know. It’s sad that a person can’t tell their own spouse about their interest in modification, it’s like they don’t know the person at all.
This guy has some real guts, you’ve gotta respect people who are willing to go the extra mile that most people wouldn’t trek to make themselves look just the way they want.
The only thing about this that I found utterly appalling was that his wife doesn’t know. It’s sad that a person can’t tell their own spouse about their interest in modification, it’s like they don’t know the person at all.
wooohh..this is totaly awesome!!this guy defied pain and achieved personal satisfaction from it..ive done a lot of things to defy my limits but this guy Leene is the master when it comes to this art!
wooohh..this is totaly awesome!!this guy defied pain and achieved personal satisfaction from it..ive done a lot of things to defy my limits but this guy Leene is the master when it comes to this art!
This guy is fucking lame .If u have to make up lies to evryone about what ur doing and his shoddy style of work sucks , And besides that he didnt defy pain he used ice to numb the area .And a diabetic letting infection set in is carzy dumb ~_=
This guy is fucking lame .If u have to make up lies to evryone about what ur doing and his shoddy style of work sucks , And besides that he didnt defy pain he used ice to numb the area .And a diabetic letting infection set in is carzy dumb ~_=
I am interested in removing a toe myself. I have been interested for years… I can’t explain it, I just have a very strong urge to do it.
I suppose the fact I love pain, and love to be challenged by it helps, and I like seeing my own blood.
If you saw me, you would never guess, I don’t have any piercings, and I am not covered in ink… Yes, that is the typical stereotype I guess. 😀
If anyone could email me a step by step, with tips on how long to leave tourniquets on, how often to change bandage, best way to control the flow of blood, best way to minimize shock, etc, it would be greatly appreciated.
Also, does the skin just simply grow completely back over the gaping wound at the end of your toe? Just like that?
I am interested in removing a toe myself. I have been interested for years… I can’t explain it, I just have a very strong urge to do it.
I suppose the fact I love pain, and love to be challenged by it helps, and I like seeing my own blood.
If you saw me, you would never guess, I don’t have any piercings, and I am not covered in ink… Yes, that is the typical stereotype I guess. 😀
If anyone could email me a step by step, with tips on how long to leave tourniquets on, how often to change bandage, best way to control the flow of blood, best way to minimize shock, etc, it would be greatly appreciated.
Also, does the skin just simply grow completely back over the gaping wound at the end of your toe? Just like that?