When I posted his amputation photos last month, it raised quite a lot of conversation, so I’ve followed that up with an interview — click through to read that now and come back here to comment!
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472 responses to “Amputation Interview Posted”
Er, my email is
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Er, my email is
hadesonearth at hotmail dot com
Ha ha,, u guys crack me up,, If you wanna amp yer toes just fuckin do it, same as your leg, or even your fuckin head for that matter, the only thing which I found shocking here is the fact that you lie with your woman as well as lying to her, this kind of lifestyle is very selfish because you put your wife, who you do not respect! through a lot of pain, so you are not doing this to “Yourself” you are taking pieces of her along for the ride, I assume you both took some sort of vow to honour and respect each other yet you do not respect or honour her, you lie to her and you decieve her, and as so, she lives with a stranger, How do you feel when you repeatedly knowingly decieve the woman who has swore an oath to stay with you for the rest of her life,,caring for you, trying to help you through your “difficult misfortune”, you should feel low, you should feel very low. I dont think you have any respect for anything, including yourself.
Ha ha,, u guys crack me up,, If you wanna amp yer toes just fuckin do it, same as your leg, or even your fuckin head for that matter, the only thing which I found shocking here is the fact that you lie with your woman as well as lying to her, this kind of lifestyle is very selfish because you put your wife, who you do not respect! through a lot of pain, so you are not doing this to “Yourself” you are taking pieces of her along for the ride, I assume you both took some sort of vow to honour and respect each other yet you do not respect or honour her, you lie to her and you decieve her, and as so, she lives with a stranger, How do you feel when you repeatedly knowingly decieve the woman who has swore an oath to stay with you for the rest of her life,,caring for you, trying to help you through your “difficult misfortune”, you should feel low, you should feel very low. I dont think you have any respect for anything, including yourself.
The thing that bothered me the most about this article is how he cut off part of his penis or will cut off part of his penis because he doesn’t want to have penetrating sex….umm how do you think his wife feels about this? if she isn’t gonna get penetrating sex from him then she sure as hell will get it from somebody else and I don’t know how he feels about that!
The thing that bothered me the most about this article is how he cut off part of his penis or will cut off part of his penis because he doesn’t want to have penetrating sex….umm how do you think his wife feels about this? if she isn’t gonna get penetrating sex from him then she sure as hell will get it from somebody else and I don’t know how he feels about that!
sorry to be blunt but i feel that whatever this guy has done is completely insane. if he chooses to mutilate himself this way, it definitly should not be in the expense of others, especially his loved ones. Not only is he wasting taxpayers money on his crazy fetishes, he is hurting his wife who i suspect is sick with worry at all his ‘accidents’ and even expressed interest in exploring it with other women who are into this. reading articles like these depresses individuals like me who believe that we should all do something productive and beneficial to society with our lives. This doesnt count. i would like to know what a person with true disabilities feels about this. He is totally insensitive and ignorant to their feelings. Instead of looking at disabled members of society with compassion and harbouring thoughts of helping them, he instead is fascinated with their disabilities. There is something seriously wrong with this world if there are individuals like these in existence. my recommendation is that he should try visiting a shrink and come clean with his wife and his loved ones about his ‘hobby’. if he has the guts to do these things and share it with the rest of the world this way, he should have the responsibility to open up to his family who care about him. Reapetedly engaging in such experimentation with his family in oblivion is highly irresponsible and a tad immature of him. Although i am against what he has done and his personal interests, i do hope he makes peace with himself and his family. I sincerely wish him well.
sorry to be blunt but i feel that whatever this guy has done is completely insane. if he chooses to mutilate himself this way, it definitly should not be in the expense of others, especially his loved ones. Not only is he wasting taxpayers money on his crazy fetishes, he is hurting his wife who i suspect is sick with worry at all his ‘accidents’ and even expressed interest in exploring it with other women who are into this. reading articles like these depresses individuals like me who believe that we should all do something productive and beneficial to society with our lives. This doesnt count. i would like to know what a person with true disabilities feels about this. He is totally insensitive and ignorant to their feelings. Instead of looking at disabled members of society with compassion and harbouring thoughts of helping them, he instead is fascinated with their disabilities. There is something seriously wrong with this world if there are individuals like these in existence. my recommendation is that he should try visiting a shrink and come clean with his wife and his loved ones about his ‘hobby’. if he has the guts to do these things and share it with the rest of the world this way, he should have the responsibility to open up to his family who care about him. Reapetedly engaging in such experimentation with his family in oblivion is highly irresponsible and a tad immature of him. Although i am against what he has done and his personal interests, i do hope he makes peace with himself and his family. I sincerely wish him well.
Thank you for posting this I found it a really interesting article and discussion. Thinking about it though I’m not sure how to feel. I did have a kind of cringe reaction, but it also bothered me on a more basic level. The basic desire seems to me to come from a different place then the desire for other body mods.
Other body Mods seem to be most about change even the most extreme. Even if the Mod in question deeply grosses me out on a visceral level, I strongly believe that everyone has the right to seek to alter themselves as they see fit.
This seems to come from a self-destructive place. He is not altering or adding to his body he is cutting pieces off. Everyone has self-destructive impulses, but following them to amputation or suicide or any other dangerously self-destructive place is not very healthy. And when someone is in that frame of mind there point of view is so skewed that they can’t rationally consider the future consequence of your actions.
That being said I know there are some people who lose the mental representation of a body part or parts. If someone has a persistent feeling that part of there body is wrong and does not belong to them I think there is no problem with deciding to amputate it. His motive for amputation just seemed more unhealthy and disturbing.
Thank you for posting this I found it a really interesting article and discussion. Thinking about it though I’m not sure how to feel. I did have a kind of cringe reaction, but it also bothered me on a more basic level. The basic desire seems to me to come from a different place then the desire for other body mods.
Other body Mods seem to be most about change even the most extreme. Even if the Mod in question deeply grosses me out on a visceral level, I strongly believe that everyone has the right to seek to alter themselves as they see fit.
This seems to come from a self-destructive place. He is not altering or adding to his body he is cutting pieces off. Everyone has self-destructive impulses, but following them to amputation or suicide or any other dangerously self-destructive place is not very healthy. And when someone is in that frame of mind there point of view is so skewed that they can’t rationally consider the future consequence of your actions.
That being said I know there are some people who lose the mental representation of a body part or parts. If someone has a persistent feeling that part of there body is wrong and does not belong to them I think there is no problem with deciding to amputate it. His motive for amputation just seemed more unhealthy and disturbing.
DP-
It’s been a long enough time since your posting, but your comment annoyed me enough that I wanted to rebut it even if you never read this.
First off, I agree that in this particular case the man’s actions seemed more self-destructive then self-actualizing. But the way you expressed this with your talk of perversions, your insistence that anyone who desires to more radically change their body is mentally ill and that all decisions made based on an person’s emotional truths rather then “severe logic” was of course offensive.
*”severe logic, which is the mere thing that differentiates our existence from other entities of this world”
Actually, our limbic system, and the way in which our brain processes emotion has evolved almost as much as our cerebral cortex. Neurologically, the changes that most separate us from the other animals are our ability for abstract reasoning and the complexity of our emotions.
2. You say in the rest of the sentence I’ve quoted from before that “having, standing and believing” ideals based mainly on one’s emotions is “like…justifying the end and the means without discretion on any level and without any point of reference to reality”. But our more complex emotions and emotional desires are as key a part of interpreting and understanding our reality as our abstract reasoning abilities. After all a psychopath is someone lacking in emotion and empathy(an emotion). Is there view of reality more valid then the rest of ours? I am sure as well that the opposite state of being, that in which someone has the emotional capability but not the ability to reason through the consequences of their actions is equally dangerous. But clearly allowing one’s emotions to guide one’s desires is necessary and not the negative thing you claim it is. All of us do have a right and a need to pursue what makes us happy. And deciding what makes us happy based on our emotions in no way gives one a skewed representation of reality.
3. Your point that other animals don’t gain pleasure from pain or commit suicide or otherwise perform self-destructive acts.
Pleasure from pain…um yes they do. Especially animals that determine reproductive potential by who wins the fights and animals that hunt for food. The pleasure pain crossover is not unique to humans. It’s not product of a sick and damaged perverse mind either. Like everything else people have different likes and dislikes and different degrees to which they enjoy something. I don’t understand why people enjoy watching golf for example, but I understand they are not mentally ill to enjoy it.
Suicide…I don’t know about other animals, but I agree with you in that someone not in the most extreme of circumstances who is considering it should seek help.
Also for the whole ‘nature tells us what is good and right, doing things that you don’t see in the natural world is sick and wrong’ argument, I am really tired of it. I don’t expect my cat to talk. People’s motives and desires are so much deeper and more nuanced then animals with the possible exception of some primates and dolphins. No deer ever risked its life trying to fly or fell in love with an idea. Just because people have desires that animals don’t have does not mean that they are unnatural.
4. “But that’s what our society does today; our society is pluralistic to the bone and everything is accepted to a so-said maintain freedom and freedom of speech…you can do and say everything since anything goes’. Everyone is free to speak and do their nonsense today, and may even be praised for it. Even further, someone is free to say “good for him”, but not free to say “what a schizofrenic freak is this clown” for he would be deemed ‘close-minded”
You seem to be confusing freedom of speech and freedom to have your views listened to and not challenged. Of course you have the freedom to say “what a schizofrenic freak is this clown.” as you so clearly did. Choosing not to state your views for fear of being “deemed ‘close-minded” has nothing to do with freedom of speech. People always have and always will be judged on what comes out of their mouths. That views you disagree with are praised and your views receive negative responses is not at all related to your freedom to speak without fearing you will be thrown in jail for holding a minority viewpoint. Also, I no one really believes you can do things that harm others without consequences.
For the rest of your comment…You seem to think that acting on desires that are unpopular or outside the realm of anything seen in the natural realm or anything you can understand is sick and perverse. I think it is part of what makes us human. Our complex desires and emotions are part of what make us who we are. After all what other animal ever looked at the moon and desperately wanted to go there. Or decided to set out across the ocean in a wooden boat not knowing what they would find. (clearly a somewhat self-destructive act) The desire to drastically modify one’s body is not that different then all the other weird desires people have and has as much right to be accepted and pursued.
DP-
It’s been a long enough time since your posting, but your comment annoyed me enough that I wanted to rebut it even if you never read this.
First off, I agree that in this particular case the man’s actions seemed more self-destructive then self-actualizing. But the way you expressed this with your talk of perversions, your insistence that anyone who desires to more radically change their body is mentally ill and that all decisions made based on an person’s emotional truths rather then “severe logic” was of course offensive.
*”severe logic, which is the mere thing that differentiates our existence from other entities of this world”
Actually, our limbic system, and the way in which our brain processes emotion has evolved almost as much as our cerebral cortex. Neurologically, the changes that most separate us from the other animals are our ability for abstract reasoning and the complexity of our emotions.
2. You say in the rest of the sentence I’ve quoted from before that “having, standing and believing” ideals based mainly on one’s emotions is “like…justifying the end and the means without discretion on any level and without any point of reference to reality”. But our more complex emotions and emotional desires are as key a part of interpreting and understanding our reality as our abstract reasoning abilities. After all a psychopath is someone lacking in emotion and empathy(an emotion). Is there view of reality more valid then the rest of ours? I am sure as well that the opposite state of being, that in which someone has the emotional capability but not the ability to reason through the consequences of their actions is equally dangerous. But clearly allowing one’s emotions to guide one’s desires is necessary and not the negative thing you claim it is. All of us do have a right and a need to pursue what makes us happy. And deciding what makes us happy based on our emotions in no way gives one a skewed representation of reality.
3. Your point that other animals don’t gain pleasure from pain or commit suicide or otherwise perform self-destructive acts.
Pleasure from pain…um yes they do. Especially animals that determine reproductive potential by who wins the fights and animals that hunt for food. The pleasure pain crossover is not unique to humans. It’s not product of a sick and damaged perverse mind either. Like everything else people have different likes and dislikes and different degrees to which they enjoy something. I don’t understand why people enjoy watching golf for example, but I understand they are not mentally ill to enjoy it.
Suicide…I don’t know about other animals, but I agree with you in that someone not in the most extreme of circumstances who is considering it should seek help.
Also for the whole ‘nature tells us what is good and right, doing things that you don’t see in the natural world is sick and wrong’ argument, I am really tired of it. I don’t expect my cat to talk. People’s motives and desires are so much deeper and more nuanced then animals with the possible exception of some primates and dolphins. No deer ever risked its life trying to fly or fell in love with an idea. Just because people have desires that animals don’t have does not mean that they are unnatural.
4. “But that’s what our society does today; our society is pluralistic to the bone and everything is accepted to a so-said maintain freedom and freedom of speech…you can do and say everything since anything goes’. Everyone is free to speak and do their nonsense today, and may even be praised for it. Even further, someone is free to say “good for him”, but not free to say “what a schizofrenic freak is this clown” for he would be deemed ‘close-minded”
You seem to be confusing freedom of speech and freedom to have your views listened to and not challenged. Of course you have the freedom to say “what a schizofrenic freak is this clown.” as you so clearly did. Choosing not to state your views for fear of being “deemed ‘close-minded” has nothing to do with freedom of speech. People always have and always will be judged on what comes out of their mouths. That views you disagree with are praised and your views receive negative responses is not at all related to your freedom to speak without fearing you will be thrown in jail for holding a minority viewpoint. Also, I no one really believes you can do things that harm others without consequences.
For the rest of your comment…You seem to think that acting on desires that are unpopular or outside the realm of anything seen in the natural realm or anything you can understand is sick and perverse. I think it is part of what makes us human. Our complex desires and emotions are part of what make us who we are. After all what other animal ever looked at the moon and desperately wanted to go there. Or decided to set out across the ocean in a wooden boat not knowing what they would find. (clearly a somewhat self-destructive act) The desire to drastically modify one’s body is not that different then all the other weird desires people have and has as much right to be accepted and pursued.
Love the beautiful feet – the remaining great toe should be amputated.
Love the beautiful feet – the remaining great toe should be amputated.
Yeah very interesting but i think its to far, it puts a lid on certain things and limits you to what you can do. Personally i don’t understand it, yet everyone has there own reasons for there actions and commitments, very risky business i must say because its not accepted and even i find it hard to accept, your body and your choice, none of my business or anyone else’s so if your happy nothing else matters.
Yeah very interesting but i think its to far, it puts a lid on certain things and limits you to what you can do. Personally i don’t understand it, yet everyone has there own reasons for there actions and commitments, very risky business i must say because its not accepted and even i find it hard to accept, your body and your choice, none of my business or anyone else’s so if your happy nothing else matters.
Are all you all out of you f*ing mind? People who actually suffer from amputations would kill to have their original body back. This is the most disrespectfull and disgusting thing I have ever seen or heard. Guys like that should be beaten to death with a lead pipe. Not to mention the lifetime of lies to a woman who’s probably very unlucky to have a mutilated handicapped husband, but ruins her life because of guilt and afraid of what other people would think if she would divorce an amputee. You don’t think people will mind? Go hang yourself you sick nutsack
Are all you all out of you f*ing mind? People who actually suffer from amputations would kill to have their original body back. This is the most disrespectfull and disgusting thing I have ever seen or heard. Guys like that should be beaten to death with a lead pipe. Not to mention the lifetime of lies to a woman who’s probably very unlucky to have a mutilated handicapped husband, but ruins her life because of guilt and afraid of what other people would think if she would divorce an amputee. You don’t think people will mind? Go hang yourself you sick nutsack
I totally agree with #24, and possibly #25. I did not read the article or see any picture. I am getting the idea of what this is about. I cannot understandwhy someone would want to intentionally amputate parts of their body. If it is in anticipation of what MAY happen in the future due to family disease or that the person is in the beginning stages of some disease, such as diabetes, I still cannot understand why they would want to put the “cart before the horse”.
But then, all of my comments come from ignorance on my part. I do not know the article, or what have you, and I do not have diabetes, or any other disease that I’m aware of, where I would lose my limbs. So, forgive me for this ignorance, but I still would let whatever is going to happen, happen naturally, then deal with it as it comes.
JUST MY TWO CENTS WORTH.
I totally agree with #24, and possibly #25. I did not read the article or see any picture. I am getting the idea of what this is about. I cannot understandwhy someone would want to intentionally amputate parts of their body. If it is in anticipation of what MAY happen in the future due to family disease or that the person is in the beginning stages of some disease, such as diabetes, I still cannot understand why they would want to put the “cart before the horse”.
But then, all of my comments come from ignorance on my part. I do not know the article, or what have you, and I do not have diabetes, or any other disease that I’m aware of, where I would lose my limbs. So, forgive me for this ignorance, but I still would let whatever is going to happen, happen naturally, then deal with it as it comes.
JUST MY TWO CENTS WORTH.
Wow, I have to say, looking at the pictures did make me stare open-mouthed for a while, as I’m not used to seeing such things, but also, wow, good on him!
@234 – those who kill to have their body back to what you call ‘normal’, don’t you think amputation in what makes him feel ‘normal’? He can do whatever he likes to his body, it’s no skin off your nose.
This has helped me understand why people would do DIY amputations, and I can totally see why he wouldn’t want to tell his wife, although it may not be the right thing to keep it from her…to me, it’s the same as a cross-dresser keeping it from his wife, something you love to do, and are not sure others would understand.
It’s ignorance that makes people react so badly, I find it quite single-minded.
I don’t think I’d ever be keen on an amputation, but I think if that’s what he wants to do, nobody should stop him or tell him it’s wrong, because it’s not. It’s body modification, which is what BMEzine is all about isn’t it?
In my opinion, it’s just like getting a tattoo, or a piercing, only on a different scale. It’s something you can’t cover up or remove if you change your mind.
Also, to whoever said it, I don’t think he will be getting a prosthetic leg, as he likes his amputation. So don’t worry about your tax money going on that, just remember it’s probably going to fund alcoholics and people on welfare, or something like that 😉
Wow, I have to say, looking at the pictures did make me stare open-mouthed for a while, as I’m not used to seeing such things, but also, wow, good on him!
@234 – those who kill to have their body back to what you call ‘normal’, don’t you think amputation in what makes him feel ‘normal’? He can do whatever he likes to his body, it’s no skin off your nose.
This has helped me understand why people would do DIY amputations, and I can totally see why he wouldn’t want to tell his wife, although it may not be the right thing to keep it from her…to me, it’s the same as a cross-dresser keeping it from his wife, something you love to do, and are not sure others would understand.
It’s ignorance that makes people react so badly, I find it quite single-minded.
I don’t think I’d ever be keen on an amputation, but I think if that’s what he wants to do, nobody should stop him or tell him it’s wrong, because it’s not. It’s body modification, which is what BMEzine is all about isn’t it?
In my opinion, it’s just like getting a tattoo, or a piercing, only on a different scale. It’s something you can’t cover up or remove if you change your mind.
Also, to whoever said it, I don’t think he will be getting a prosthetic leg, as he likes his amputation. So don’t worry about your tax money going on that, just remember it’s probably going to fund alcoholics and people on welfare, or something like that 😉