A black-and-white photo of a person mid-air in a Superman-style body suspension pose, supported by multiple hooks in their back and legs, smiling joyfully toward the camera. They are suspended horizontally in a large indoor space with high ceilings and visible rigging. A group of onlookers—some seated, some standing—watch with expressions of admiration, amusement, and support. The atmosphere is lively and communal, capturing a moment of shared experience and transformation.

DIY Finger Amputation

Alex is a voluntary LAK, RAK, and RBE amputee* and is now also stubbing the fingers on his right hand (I mentioned the interviews a few days ago but if you want to know more, for starters read this interview with my late friend Chaz about voluntary amputationyou may also want to read this to see what kind of guy he was before you judge him and other voluntary amputees). He used ice to do the initial DIY anesthesia and then cleanly chopped it off. There was almost no bleeding, but definitely lots of pain. Click on through if you want to see the remainders.

That reminds me, if you want to see a free video of a DIY amputation, view the final Uvatiarru trailer (yeah, the movie is still in its ultra-extended production cycle, sorry).

* Left above the knee, right above the knee, and right below the elbow.

Comments

868 responses to “DIY Finger Amputation”

  1. Corky Avatar

    Giles, nothing is “normal” when your standard of normal is whether or not 99.99% of the population practices it. Hell, not even that many people bathe regularly, brush their teeth, or even wipe their ass after they shit! Do I need to seek therapy because I do those things? I doubt it.

    I understand very well that BIID and Self Harm are psychological disorders, but you’re making a very blanket statement that everyone who wants to remove an appendage suffers from this. This is not true.

    And, about this article that you keep referencing back to on biid.org. This study was based on only 52 people… That is a VERY small number. The responses from just those 52 people in the study were so varied that one cannot even derive objective statements about the study group as a whole, let alone the larger group of people who desire amputation.

  2. Corky Avatar

    Giles, nothing is “normal” when your standard of normal is whether or not 99.99% of the population practices it. Hell, not even that many people bathe regularly, brush their teeth, or even wipe their ass after they shit! Do I need to seek therapy because I do those things? I doubt it.

    I understand very well that BIID and Self Harm are psychological disorders, but you’re making a very blanket statement that everyone who wants to remove an appendage suffers from this. This is not true.

    And, about this article that you keep referencing back to on biid.org. This study was based on only 52 people… That is a VERY small number. The responses from just those 52 people in the study were so varied that one cannot even derive objective statements about the study group as a whole, let alone the larger group of people who desire amputation.

  3. Corky Avatar

    Also, Giles, you said earlier “Rarely do self amputees stop after one”.

    However, even in the study you are referring people to, right on the first page, it reads “The six subjects who had an amputation at their desired site reported that following the amputation they felt better than they ever had and no longer had a desire for an amputation.”

    If all six of the subjects who’s amputations where where they wanted it felt no more desire for future amputation, that’s a pretty solid rebuttal to your claim that it rarely ends at one…

  4. Corky Avatar

    Also, Giles, you said earlier “Rarely do self amputees stop after one”.

    However, even in the study you are referring people to, right on the first page, it reads “The six subjects who had an amputation at their desired site reported that following the amputation they felt better than they ever had and no longer had a desire for an amputation.”

    If all six of the subjects who’s amputations where where they wanted it felt no more desire for future amputation, that’s a pretty solid rebuttal to your claim that it rarely ends at one…

  5. Corky Avatar

    Also, Giles, you said earlier “Rarely do self amputees stop after one”.

    However, even in the study you are referring people to, right on the first page, it reads “The six subjects who had an amputation at their desired site reported that following the amputation they felt better than they ever had and no longer had a desire for an amputation.”

    If all six of the subjects who’s amputations where where they wanted it felt no more desire for future amputation, that’s a pretty solid rebuttal to your claim that it rarely ends at one…

  6. Corky Avatar

    Also, Giles, you said earlier “Rarely do self amputees stop after one”.

    However, even in the study you are referring people to, right on the first page, it reads “The six subjects who had an amputation at their desired site reported that following the amputation they felt better than they ever had and no longer had a desire for an amputation.”

    If all six of the subjects who’s amputations where where they wanted it felt no more desire for future amputation, that’s a pretty solid rebuttal to your claim that it rarely ends at one…

  7. Giles Wallwork Avatar

    Corky – Other info (BIID Site and Transabled) claim that those who seek amputations often carry out further ‘work’ afterwards.

  8. Giles Wallwork Avatar

    Corky – Other info (BIID Site and Transabled) claim that those who seek amputations often carry out further ‘work’ afterwards.

  9. Giles Wallwork Avatar

    Corky – Other info (BIID Site and Transabled) claim that those who seek amputations often carry out further ‘work’ afterwards.

  10. Giles Wallwork Avatar

    Corky – Other info (BIID Site and Transabled) claim that those who seek amputations often carry out further ‘work’ afterwards.

  11. Corky Avatar

    You said the magic word, Giles: Claim.

    The subject is simply not studied well enough to make any concrete statements about it.

  12. Corky Avatar

    You said the magic word, Giles: Claim.

    The subject is simply not studied well enough to make any concrete statements about it.

  13. Corky Avatar

    You said the magic word, Giles: Claim.

    The subject is simply not studied well enough to make any concrete statements about it.

  14. Corky Avatar

    You said the magic word, Giles: Claim.

    The subject is simply not studied well enough to make any concrete statements about it.

  15. truthpassion Avatar
    truthpassion

    Shannon: you said “certainly all people involved in all forms of heavy modification should do some serious self-searching and be very sure of who they are, but just because for some people it’s a sickness doesn’t mean it is for everyone… a la the differences between cutting in terms of self-harm and cutting in terms of ritual and cutting in terms of aesthetics (and the many combinations thereof)”

    I find that interesting, especially since you have, on more than one occasion seemed to GLORIFY cutting for self-injury as an aesthetic thing. I used to be a self-cutter and seeing shit like that doesn’t help, let me tell you. Curring for aesthetics or ritual is a different matter but when you post crap on here PRAISING self-harm for psychological reasons, it’s quite obvious that you do NOT draw a line anywhere at all.

    This man OBVIOUSLY needs some sort of help. This is NOT healthy. He’s PERMANENTLY HARMING HIS BODY. You CANNOT say the same for other mods. Other mods do not harm the body permanently. They do no impede a persons ability to fucking walk or wipe their own arse.

    And BTW-I noticed in your pathetic response to my last comment, you failed to address 99% of what I had to say. As you continually do when you respond to Giles Wallwork’s posts.

    You said: And in answer to your straw man “what if I kill my child” argument, in fact, sometimes people who have killed or hurt their children due to postpartum depression/psychosis are the strongest advocates.

    NOT THE SAME THING. Not even remotely. Doing something because of a disorder and then helping people with a disorder is one thing. Chaz CAUSED HIS OWN DISORDER (and just because it was a car accident doesn’t mean he didn’t WILLINGLY lose them, and that he wouldn’t have done it on his own later–in fact, it’s quite obvious he would have). This is not a strawman argument (I suggest you look up the definition Shannon, as the term “strawman” is not even applicable in what I had to say. I made a comparison, a very different thing from a strawman argument).

    Oh, and in that comparison, did I even mention a fucking disorder? Did I say it was over depression or anything? No, I FUCKING DID NOT. You REPEATEDLY deny that Chaz or this man you’ve featured have any sort of disorder. You continue to attempt to justify what they do, and claim that they’re perfectly alright in the head, but the minute I make a LEGITIMATE comparison, you defend it by brining up people with depression or mental issues. THAT’S a strawman argument Shannon–it’s when you put words in my mouth that I didn’t say. If that’s the only way you can defend this kind of idiocy, then go right ahead.

    Chaz WILLINGLY lost his limbs. How often did he mention that fact while running around advocating disabled rights? I’m willing to be none. And do you know why? All the INVOLUNTARY amputees who would give anything to have their limbs back would have spat in his hypocritical face.

    And you’re with your statement: “and your friend not being able afford them is completely irrelevant to Chaz’s story.”

    It is relevant. I was merely making another point. Chaz who VOLUNTARILY loses his fucking limbs gets to wear prosthetics when he decides he’s too pathetic to live with that decision. The point was that he was a pathetic arsehole who couldn’t deal with his WILLING amputations and took the cop-out way of getting prosthetics. The point is that he acted selfishly.

    Shannon, I’m sorry, but you are blind when it comes to this type of thing. It’s ridiculous. And what is that bullshit about people having and end goal in mind, but then they stop? Really? Well, tell me, where exactly is this guy’s end goal? It seems to me like he plans to keep going until there’s nothing left. In the end, will he chop off his own fucking head too? But that’s ok right, Shannon? Because, after all, it’s his body, let him do whatever he wants with it. Hell, if he wants to cut open his stomach and rip out his innards, let him! It’s his body, right?

    There ARE lines, Shannon. And this DEFINITELY crosses a line.

  16. truthpassion Avatar
    truthpassion

    Shannon: you said “certainly all people involved in all forms of heavy modification should do some serious self-searching and be very sure of who they are, but just because for some people it’s a sickness doesn’t mean it is for everyone… a la the differences between cutting in terms of self-harm and cutting in terms of ritual and cutting in terms of aesthetics (and the many combinations thereof)”

    I find that interesting, especially since you have, on more than one occasion seemed to GLORIFY cutting for self-injury as an aesthetic thing. I used to be a self-cutter and seeing shit like that doesn’t help, let me tell you. Curring for aesthetics or ritual is a different matter but when you post crap on here PRAISING self-harm for psychological reasons, it’s quite obvious that you do NOT draw a line anywhere at all.

    This man OBVIOUSLY needs some sort of help. This is NOT healthy. He’s PERMANENTLY HARMING HIS BODY. You CANNOT say the same for other mods. Other mods do not harm the body permanently. They do no impede a persons ability to fucking walk or wipe their own arse.

    And BTW-I noticed in your pathetic response to my last comment, you failed to address 99% of what I had to say. As you continually do when you respond to Giles Wallwork’s posts.

    You said: And in answer to your straw man “what if I kill my child” argument, in fact, sometimes people who have killed or hurt their children due to postpartum depression/psychosis are the strongest advocates.

    NOT THE SAME THING. Not even remotely. Doing something because of a disorder and then helping people with a disorder is one thing. Chaz CAUSED HIS OWN DISORDER (and just because it was a car accident doesn’t mean he didn’t WILLINGLY lose them, and that he wouldn’t have done it on his own later–in fact, it’s quite obvious he would have). This is not a strawman argument (I suggest you look up the definition Shannon, as the term “strawman” is not even applicable in what I had to say. I made a comparison, a very different thing from a strawman argument).

    Oh, and in that comparison, did I even mention a fucking disorder? Did I say it was over depression or anything? No, I FUCKING DID NOT. You REPEATEDLY deny that Chaz or this man you’ve featured have any sort of disorder. You continue to attempt to justify what they do, and claim that they’re perfectly alright in the head, but the minute I make a LEGITIMATE comparison, you defend it by brining up people with depression or mental issues. THAT’S a strawman argument Shannon–it’s when you put words in my mouth that I didn’t say. If that’s the only way you can defend this kind of idiocy, then go right ahead.

    Chaz WILLINGLY lost his limbs. How often did he mention that fact while running around advocating disabled rights? I’m willing to be none. And do you know why? All the INVOLUNTARY amputees who would give anything to have their limbs back would have spat in his hypocritical face.

    And you’re with your statement: “and your friend not being able afford them is completely irrelevant to Chaz’s story.”

    It is relevant. I was merely making another point. Chaz who VOLUNTARILY loses his fucking limbs gets to wear prosthetics when he decides he’s too pathetic to live with that decision. The point was that he was a pathetic arsehole who couldn’t deal with his WILLING amputations and took the cop-out way of getting prosthetics. The point is that he acted selfishly.

    Shannon, I’m sorry, but you are blind when it comes to this type of thing. It’s ridiculous. And what is that bullshit about people having and end goal in mind, but then they stop? Really? Well, tell me, where exactly is this guy’s end goal? It seems to me like he plans to keep going until there’s nothing left. In the end, will he chop off his own fucking head too? But that’s ok right, Shannon? Because, after all, it’s his body, let him do whatever he wants with it. Hell, if he wants to cut open his stomach and rip out his innards, let him! It’s his body, right?

    There ARE lines, Shannon. And this DEFINITELY crosses a line.

  17. truthpassion Avatar
    truthpassion

    Shannon: you said “certainly all people involved in all forms of heavy modification should do some serious self-searching and be very sure of who they are, but just because for some people it’s a sickness doesn’t mean it is for everyone… a la the differences between cutting in terms of self-harm and cutting in terms of ritual and cutting in terms of aesthetics (and the many combinations thereof)”

    I find that interesting, especially since you have, on more than one occasion seemed to GLORIFY cutting for self-injury as an aesthetic thing. I used to be a self-cutter and seeing shit like that doesn’t help, let me tell you. Curring for aesthetics or ritual is a different matter but when you post crap on here PRAISING self-harm for psychological reasons, it’s quite obvious that you do NOT draw a line anywhere at all.

    This man OBVIOUSLY needs some sort of help. This is NOT healthy. He’s PERMANENTLY HARMING HIS BODY. You CANNOT say the same for other mods. Other mods do not harm the body permanently. They do no impede a persons ability to fucking walk or wipe their own arse.

    And BTW-I noticed in your pathetic response to my last comment, you failed to address 99% of what I had to say. As you continually do when you respond to Giles Wallwork’s posts.

    You said: And in answer to your straw man “what if I kill my child” argument, in fact, sometimes people who have killed or hurt their children due to postpartum depression/psychosis are the strongest advocates.

    NOT THE SAME THING. Not even remotely. Doing something because of a disorder and then helping people with a disorder is one thing. Chaz CAUSED HIS OWN DISORDER (and just because it was a car accident doesn’t mean he didn’t WILLINGLY lose them, and that he wouldn’t have done it on his own later–in fact, it’s quite obvious he would have). This is not a strawman argument (I suggest you look up the definition Shannon, as the term “strawman” is not even applicable in what I had to say. I made a comparison, a very different thing from a strawman argument).

    Oh, and in that comparison, did I even mention a fucking disorder? Did I say it was over depression or anything? No, I FUCKING DID NOT. You REPEATEDLY deny that Chaz or this man you’ve featured have any sort of disorder. You continue to attempt to justify what they do, and claim that they’re perfectly alright in the head, but the minute I make a LEGITIMATE comparison, you defend it by brining up people with depression or mental issues. THAT’S a strawman argument Shannon–it’s when you put words in my mouth that I didn’t say. If that’s the only way you can defend this kind of idiocy, then go right ahead.

    Chaz WILLINGLY lost his limbs. How often did he mention that fact while running around advocating disabled rights? I’m willing to be none. And do you know why? All the INVOLUNTARY amputees who would give anything to have their limbs back would have spat in his hypocritical face.

    And you’re with your statement: “and your friend not being able afford them is completely irrelevant to Chaz’s story.”

    It is relevant. I was merely making another point. Chaz who VOLUNTARILY loses his fucking limbs gets to wear prosthetics when he decides he’s too pathetic to live with that decision. The point was that he was a pathetic arsehole who couldn’t deal with his WILLING amputations and took the cop-out way of getting prosthetics. The point is that he acted selfishly.

    Shannon, I’m sorry, but you are blind when it comes to this type of thing. It’s ridiculous. And what is that bullshit about people having and end goal in mind, but then they stop? Really? Well, tell me, where exactly is this guy’s end goal? It seems to me like he plans to keep going until there’s nothing left. In the end, will he chop off his own fucking head too? But that’s ok right, Shannon? Because, after all, it’s his body, let him do whatever he wants with it. Hell, if he wants to cut open his stomach and rip out his innards, let him! It’s his body, right?

    There ARE lines, Shannon. And this DEFINITELY crosses a line.

  18. truthpassion Avatar
    truthpassion

    Shannon: you said “certainly all people involved in all forms of heavy modification should do some serious self-searching and be very sure of who they are, but just because for some people it’s a sickness doesn’t mean it is for everyone… a la the differences between cutting in terms of self-harm and cutting in terms of ritual and cutting in terms of aesthetics (and the many combinations thereof)”

    I find that interesting, especially since you have, on more than one occasion seemed to GLORIFY cutting for self-injury as an aesthetic thing. I used to be a self-cutter and seeing shit like that doesn’t help, let me tell you. Curring for aesthetics or ritual is a different matter but when you post crap on here PRAISING self-harm for psychological reasons, it’s quite obvious that you do NOT draw a line anywhere at all.

    This man OBVIOUSLY needs some sort of help. This is NOT healthy. He’s PERMANENTLY HARMING HIS BODY. You CANNOT say the same for other mods. Other mods do not harm the body permanently. They do no impede a persons ability to fucking walk or wipe their own arse.

    And BTW-I noticed in your pathetic response to my last comment, you failed to address 99% of what I had to say. As you continually do when you respond to Giles Wallwork’s posts.

    You said: And in answer to your straw man “what if I kill my child” argument, in fact, sometimes people who have killed or hurt their children due to postpartum depression/psychosis are the strongest advocates.

    NOT THE SAME THING. Not even remotely. Doing something because of a disorder and then helping people with a disorder is one thing. Chaz CAUSED HIS OWN DISORDER (and just because it was a car accident doesn’t mean he didn’t WILLINGLY lose them, and that he wouldn’t have done it on his own later–in fact, it’s quite obvious he would have). This is not a strawman argument (I suggest you look up the definition Shannon, as the term “strawman” is not even applicable in what I had to say. I made a comparison, a very different thing from a strawman argument).

    Oh, and in that comparison, did I even mention a fucking disorder? Did I say it was over depression or anything? No, I FUCKING DID NOT. You REPEATEDLY deny that Chaz or this man you’ve featured have any sort of disorder. You continue to attempt to justify what they do, and claim that they’re perfectly alright in the head, but the minute I make a LEGITIMATE comparison, you defend it by brining up people with depression or mental issues. THAT’S a strawman argument Shannon–it’s when you put words in my mouth that I didn’t say. If that’s the only way you can defend this kind of idiocy, then go right ahead.

    Chaz WILLINGLY lost his limbs. How often did he mention that fact while running around advocating disabled rights? I’m willing to be none. And do you know why? All the INVOLUNTARY amputees who would give anything to have their limbs back would have spat in his hypocritical face.

    And you’re with your statement: “and your friend not being able afford them is completely irrelevant to Chaz’s story.”

    It is relevant. I was merely making another point. Chaz who VOLUNTARILY loses his fucking limbs gets to wear prosthetics when he decides he’s too pathetic to live with that decision. The point was that he was a pathetic arsehole who couldn’t deal with his WILLING amputations and took the cop-out way of getting prosthetics. The point is that he acted selfishly.

    Shannon, I’m sorry, but you are blind when it comes to this type of thing. It’s ridiculous. And what is that bullshit about people having and end goal in mind, but then they stop? Really? Well, tell me, where exactly is this guy’s end goal? It seems to me like he plans to keep going until there’s nothing left. In the end, will he chop off his own fucking head too? But that’s ok right, Shannon? Because, after all, it’s his body, let him do whatever he wants with it. Hell, if he wants to cut open his stomach and rip out his innards, let him! It’s his body, right?

    There ARE lines, Shannon. And this DEFINITELY crosses a line.

  19. Shannon Larratt Avatar

    truthpassion – What’s more important? One’s body or one’s life? You really think that cutting off a body part causes more harm to someone’s life than, say, Skullboy’s facial tattoo? Do you really think that Chaz’s amputations negatively affected his life more than Skullboy’s tattoo?

    And what gives you or anyone other than the person who it directly affects the right to say that it’s unacceptable?

    As to your friend, do your arguments apply to scars as well? Is it insulting to people with scars if a person chooses to go and have scars created? BME has documented lots of people with scars that appear to be due to accidents/fights/etc but are done in a studio. What about rape? Should people stop having sex because people are raped? I don’t get how you can’t see that consensual/voluntary acts are totally unrelated to those that are not.

    And the ranting and raving about Chaz using prosthetics being because he’s “too pathetic too live with his decision” is just silly, because that was part of his interest/goal as an engineer and an amputee fetishist.

    This may cross YOUR line, but it doesn’t cross his line, and it doesn’t cross my line, nor does it cross many other people’s lines.

  20. Shannon Larratt Avatar

    truthpassion – What’s more important? One’s body or one’s life? You really think that cutting off a body part causes more harm to someone’s life than, say, Skullboy’s facial tattoo? Do you really think that Chaz’s amputations negatively affected his life more than Skullboy’s tattoo?

    And what gives you or anyone other than the person who it directly affects the right to say that it’s unacceptable?

    As to your friend, do your arguments apply to scars as well? Is it insulting to people with scars if a person chooses to go and have scars created? BME has documented lots of people with scars that appear to be due to accidents/fights/etc but are done in a studio. What about rape? Should people stop having sex because people are raped? I don’t get how you can’t see that consensual/voluntary acts are totally unrelated to those that are not.

    And the ranting and raving about Chaz using prosthetics being because he’s “too pathetic too live with his decision” is just silly, because that was part of his interest/goal as an engineer and an amputee fetishist.

    This may cross YOUR line, but it doesn’t cross his line, and it doesn’t cross my line, nor does it cross many other people’s lines.

  21. Shannon Larratt Avatar

    truthpassion – What’s more important? One’s body or one’s life? You really think that cutting off a body part causes more harm to someone’s life than, say, Skullboy’s facial tattoo? Do you really think that Chaz’s amputations negatively affected his life more than Skullboy’s tattoo?

    And what gives you or anyone other than the person who it directly affects the right to say that it’s unacceptable?

    As to your friend, do your arguments apply to scars as well? Is it insulting to people with scars if a person chooses to go and have scars created? BME has documented lots of people with scars that appear to be due to accidents/fights/etc but are done in a studio. What about rape? Should people stop having sex because people are raped? I don’t get how you can’t see that consensual/voluntary acts are totally unrelated to those that are not.

    And the ranting and raving about Chaz using prosthetics being because he’s “too pathetic too live with his decision” is just silly, because that was part of his interest/goal as an engineer and an amputee fetishist.

    This may cross YOUR line, but it doesn’t cross his line, and it doesn’t cross my line, nor does it cross many other people’s lines.

  22. Shannon Larratt Avatar

    truthpassion – What’s more important? One’s body or one’s life? You really think that cutting off a body part causes more harm to someone’s life than, say, Skullboy’s facial tattoo? Do you really think that Chaz’s amputations negatively affected his life more than Skullboy’s tattoo?

    And what gives you or anyone other than the person who it directly affects the right to say that it’s unacceptable?

    As to your friend, do your arguments apply to scars as well? Is it insulting to people with scars if a person chooses to go and have scars created? BME has documented lots of people with scars that appear to be due to accidents/fights/etc but are done in a studio. What about rape? Should people stop having sex because people are raped? I don’t get how you can’t see that consensual/voluntary acts are totally unrelated to those that are not.

    And the ranting and raving about Chaz using prosthetics being because he’s “too pathetic too live with his decision” is just silly, because that was part of his interest/goal as an engineer and an amputee fetishist.

    This may cross YOUR line, but it doesn’t cross his line, and it doesn’t cross my line, nor does it cross many other people’s lines.

  23. Heretic Avatar

    Have any of you even considered for the slightest moment. That by not doing this its more of a harm then it would be if the limb was kept in place. If this helps this person in some way shape or form. Then by all means let him. Is there a line.. Yes however that is something that should be left to the person to deside what that is. No outside influance should ever be put in place. Just because YOU don’t understand it, and fear it. Does not mean its not a viable option for another person.

    Also what people seem to be completely forgetting is the fact that BME is here to document Body Modification. Now whether or not you happen to agree with what people do to there body is your problem. People are going to do this regardless of whether or not you people agree with it. BME is here to document it. Who cares if any of you think this person needs help. I’m sure in some way shape or form all of us do. If you don’t like something don’t look at it, don’t read it, and generally stay the fuck away. They’re plenty of us who understand.

    Just out of curiousty. I’m curious of what you people think of some of the heavier genital mods out there. Personally I find that more extreme then this..

  24. Heretic Avatar

    Have any of you even considered for the slightest moment. That by not doing this its more of a harm then it would be if the limb was kept in place. If this helps this person in some way shape or form. Then by all means let him. Is there a line.. Yes however that is something that should be left to the person to deside what that is. No outside influance should ever be put in place. Just because YOU don’t understand it, and fear it. Does not mean its not a viable option for another person.

    Also what people seem to be completely forgetting is the fact that BME is here to document Body Modification. Now whether or not you happen to agree with what people do to there body is your problem. People are going to do this regardless of whether or not you people agree with it. BME is here to document it. Who cares if any of you think this person needs help. I’m sure in some way shape or form all of us do. If you don’t like something don’t look at it, don’t read it, and generally stay the fuck away. They’re plenty of us who understand.

    Just out of curiousty. I’m curious of what you people think of some of the heavier genital mods out there. Personally I find that more extreme then this..

  25. Heretic Avatar

    Have any of you even considered for the slightest moment. That by not doing this its more of a harm then it would be if the limb was kept in place. If this helps this person in some way shape or form. Then by all means let him. Is there a line.. Yes however that is something that should be left to the person to deside what that is. No outside influance should ever be put in place. Just because YOU don’t understand it, and fear it. Does not mean its not a viable option for another person.

    Also what people seem to be completely forgetting is the fact that BME is here to document Body Modification. Now whether or not you happen to agree with what people do to there body is your problem. People are going to do this regardless of whether or not you people agree with it. BME is here to document it. Who cares if any of you think this person needs help. I’m sure in some way shape or form all of us do. If you don’t like something don’t look at it, don’t read it, and generally stay the fuck away. They’re plenty of us who understand.

    Just out of curiousty. I’m curious of what you people think of some of the heavier genital mods out there. Personally I find that more extreme then this..

  26. Heretic Avatar

    Have any of you even considered for the slightest moment. That by not doing this its more of a harm then it would be if the limb was kept in place. If this helps this person in some way shape or form. Then by all means let him. Is there a line.. Yes however that is something that should be left to the person to deside what that is. No outside influance should ever be put in place. Just because YOU don’t understand it, and fear it. Does not mean its not a viable option for another person.

    Also what people seem to be completely forgetting is the fact that BME is here to document Body Modification. Now whether or not you happen to agree with what people do to there body is your problem. People are going to do this regardless of whether or not you people agree with it. BME is here to document it. Who cares if any of you think this person needs help. I’m sure in some way shape or form all of us do. If you don’t like something don’t look at it, don’t read it, and generally stay the fuck away. They’re plenty of us who understand.

    Just out of curiousty. I’m curious of what you people think of some of the heavier genital mods out there. Personally I find that more extreme then this..

  27. Dan Avatar
    Dan

    My view (for what it’ worth, as someone with only ‘mainstream’ mods), is that as long as Alex is happy with his mods, and is not a ‘burden’ upon anyone else as a result of his decision, he should be applauded for having the commitment and courage to take this as far as he has.

    Personally, amputation is not my cup of tea, but individuality is what makes this site so vibrant and interesting. It should be embraced, not derided and classified as ‘insane’.

  28. Dan Avatar
    Dan

    My view (for what it’ worth, as someone with only ‘mainstream’ mods), is that as long as Alex is happy with his mods, and is not a ‘burden’ upon anyone else as a result of his decision, he should be applauded for having the commitment and courage to take this as far as he has.

    Personally, amputation is not my cup of tea, but individuality is what makes this site so vibrant and interesting. It should be embraced, not derided and classified as ‘insane’.

  29. Dan Avatar
    Dan

    My view (for what it’ worth, as someone with only ‘mainstream’ mods), is that as long as Alex is happy with his mods, and is not a ‘burden’ upon anyone else as a result of his decision, he should be applauded for having the commitment and courage to take this as far as he has.

    Personally, amputation is not my cup of tea, but individuality is what makes this site so vibrant and interesting. It should be embraced, not derided and classified as ‘insane’.

  30. Dan Avatar
    Dan

    My view (for what it’ worth, as someone with only ‘mainstream’ mods), is that as long as Alex is happy with his mods, and is not a ‘burden’ upon anyone else as a result of his decision, he should be applauded for having the commitment and courage to take this as far as he has.

    Personally, amputation is not my cup of tea, but individuality is what makes this site so vibrant and interesting. It should be embraced, not derided and classified as ‘insane’.

  31. Giles Wallwork Avatar

    Just out of interest I am currently chatting to Sean O’Connor from Transabled about BIID and the different attitudes (including my own) regarding it.

    Hopefully I will pop it up on my IAM with his permission (and Shannons).

    It builds upon much of what Shannon has said and corrects me on some of the information that I had led to think was correct.

  32. Giles Wallwork Avatar

    Just out of interest I am currently chatting to Sean O’Connor from Transabled about BIID and the different attitudes (including my own) regarding it.

    Hopefully I will pop it up on my IAM with his permission (and Shannons).

    It builds upon much of what Shannon has said and corrects me on some of the information that I had led to think was correct.

  33. Giles Wallwork Avatar

    Just out of interest I am currently chatting to Sean O’Connor from Transabled about BIID and the different attitudes (including my own) regarding it.

    Hopefully I will pop it up on my IAM with his permission (and Shannons).

    It builds upon much of what Shannon has said and corrects me on some of the information that I had led to think was correct.

  34. Giles Wallwork Avatar

    Just out of interest I am currently chatting to Sean O’Connor from Transabled about BIID and the different attitudes (including my own) regarding it.

    Hopefully I will pop it up on my IAM with his permission (and Shannons).

    It builds upon much of what Shannon has said and corrects me on some of the information that I had led to think was correct.

  35. Shannon Larratt Avatar

    Oh, you definitely have my permission (not that you need it)!

    PS. I have a couple nice interviews on this subject as well that I’ll try and post shortly (within a week/two at most).

  36. Shannon Larratt Avatar

    Oh, you definitely have my permission (not that you need it)!

    PS. I have a couple nice interviews on this subject as well that I’ll try and post shortly (within a week/two at most).

  37. Shannon Larratt Avatar

    Oh, you definitely have my permission (not that you need it)!

    PS. I have a couple nice interviews on this subject as well that I’ll try and post shortly (within a week/two at most).

  38. Shannon Larratt Avatar

    Oh, you definitely have my permission (not that you need it)!

    PS. I have a couple nice interviews on this subject as well that I’ll try and post shortly (within a week/two at most).

  39. Dan Avatar
    Dan

    I’m looking forward to reading that!

  40. Dan Avatar
    Dan

    I’m looking forward to reading that!

  41. Dan Avatar
    Dan

    I’m looking forward to reading that!

  42. Dan Avatar
    Dan

    I’m looking forward to reading that!

  43. Giles Wallwork Avatar

    I will openly accept that some of the information on the subject (obtained from Science World, Wikipedia and a few other sources) gives a different perspective on the condition and I allowed my judgement to be based on it rather than taking a look deeper (at Transabled etc) first.

  44. Giles Wallwork Avatar

    I will openly accept that some of the information on the subject (obtained from Science World, Wikipedia and a few other sources) gives a different perspective on the condition and I allowed my judgement to be based on it rather than taking a look deeper (at Transabled etc) first.

  45. Giles Wallwork Avatar

    I will openly accept that some of the information on the subject (obtained from Science World, Wikipedia and a few other sources) gives a different perspective on the condition and I allowed my judgement to be based on it rather than taking a look deeper (at Transabled etc) first.

  46. Giles Wallwork Avatar

    I will openly accept that some of the information on the subject (obtained from Science World, Wikipedia and a few other sources) gives a different perspective on the condition and I allowed my judgement to be based on it rather than taking a look deeper (at Transabled etc) first.

  47. akibare Avatar
    akibare

    The one genital mod I find similar is nullo. That’s about it.

    Me, I’m too attached to the sensation provided by my particular erogenous bits that I can’t quite get wanting to remove them and put them in a paperweight (as one person did). All the piercing and cutting them, exposing parts, letting bees sting ‘em, all that, to me seems in a different category from removal, FWIW – at least, removal of the special nerve bits.

    And yet, nulling your genitals generally isn’t noticeable when your pants are on, plus, it doesn’t tend to adversely affect ability to perform life skills (as amputations of larger limbs can).

    As for Skullboy, as I recall half that thread was people insisting that it was closeminded to even imply that he might experience serious or possibly adverse life changes from the mod, that those who were interested in that vein just “didn’t understand.”

  48. akibare Avatar
    akibare

    The one genital mod I find similar is nullo. That’s about it.

    Me, I’m too attached to the sensation provided by my particular erogenous bits that I can’t quite get wanting to remove them and put them in a paperweight (as one person did). All the piercing and cutting them, exposing parts, letting bees sting ‘em, all that, to me seems in a different category from removal, FWIW – at least, removal of the special nerve bits.

    And yet, nulling your genitals generally isn’t noticeable when your pants are on, plus, it doesn’t tend to adversely affect ability to perform life skills (as amputations of larger limbs can).

    As for Skullboy, as I recall half that thread was people insisting that it was closeminded to even imply that he might experience serious or possibly adverse life changes from the mod, that those who were interested in that vein just “didn’t understand.”

  49. akibare Avatar
    akibare

    The one genital mod I find similar is nullo. That’s about it.

    Me, I’m too attached to the sensation provided by my particular erogenous bits that I can’t quite get wanting to remove them and put them in a paperweight (as one person did). All the piercing and cutting them, exposing parts, letting bees sting ‘em, all that, to me seems in a different category from removal, FWIW – at least, removal of the special nerve bits.

    And yet, nulling your genitals generally isn’t noticeable when your pants are on, plus, it doesn’t tend to adversely affect ability to perform life skills (as amputations of larger limbs can).

    As for Skullboy, as I recall half that thread was people insisting that it was closeminded to even imply that he might experience serious or possibly adverse life changes from the mod, that those who were interested in that vein just “didn’t understand.”

  50. akibare Avatar
    akibare

    The one genital mod I find similar is nullo. That’s about it.

    Me, I’m too attached to the sensation provided by my particular erogenous bits that I can’t quite get wanting to remove them and put them in a paperweight (as one person did). All the piercing and cutting them, exposing parts, letting bees sting ‘em, all that, to me seems in a different category from removal, FWIW – at least, removal of the special nerve bits.

    And yet, nulling your genitals generally isn’t noticeable when your pants are on, plus, it doesn’t tend to adversely affect ability to perform life skills (as amputations of larger limbs can).

    As for Skullboy, as I recall half that thread was people insisting that it was closeminded to even imply that he might experience serious or possibly adverse life changes from the mod, that those who were interested in that vein just “didn’t understand.”

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