This is probably “old news” at this point but Gino from Durban, South Africa sent in this scan of a newspaper article from their area. It’s utterly depressing that a father, who should love his child unconditionally, killed her over her secret tongue piercing.I don’t have more news than this but I thought that it was a relevant piece to share. I hope that he spends the rest of his life in jail. The death of a child over something as temporary as a tongue piercing is a depressing sign of what anger individuals can have pent up inside.
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String ‘im up
String ‘im up
String ‘im up
String ‘im up
Oh noes, one less person on the earth that i’d never know. I care a lot!
Oh wait…
Oh noes, one less person on the earth that i’d never know. I care a lot!
Oh wait…
Oh noes, one less person on the earth that i’d never know. I care a lot!
Oh wait…
Oh noes, one less person on the earth that i’d never know. I care a lot!
Oh wait…
Goddam Crazy World…beaten down for havin a piercing….porr girl.
Goddam Crazy World…beaten down for havin a piercing….porr girl.
Goddam Crazy World…beaten down for havin a piercing….porr girl.
Goddam Crazy World…beaten down for havin a piercing….porr girl.
this is one of those situations where i, personally, would like to impliment eye-for-an-eye justice. i would do to him exactly what he did to his daughter.
this is one of those situations where i, personally, would like to impliment eye-for-an-eye justice. i would do to him exactly what he did to his daughter.
this is one of those situations where i, personally, would like to impliment eye-for-an-eye justice. i would do to him exactly what he did to his daughter.
this is one of those situations where i, personally, would like to impliment eye-for-an-eye justice. i would do to him exactly what he did to his daughter.
Zulu culture ftw. We hear of some crazy things happinging in the Zulu communities where father is king.
Zulu culture ftw. We hear of some crazy things happinging in the Zulu communities where father is king.
Zulu culture ftw. We hear of some crazy things happinging in the Zulu communities where father is king.
Zulu culture ftw. We hear of some crazy things happinging in the Zulu communities where father is king.
I’d say he’s likely to suffer enough, thanks to the loss of his daughter but I still hope he gets/got a harsh sentence.
I’d say he’s likely to suffer enough, thanks to the loss of his daughter but I still hope he gets/got a harsh sentence.
I’d say he’s likely to suffer enough, thanks to the loss of his daughter but I still hope he gets/got a harsh sentence.
I’d say he’s likely to suffer enough, thanks to the loss of his daughter but I still hope he gets/got a harsh sentence.
#16, social coma: You know what: Be silently ashamed when huans are talking and go to other places to find live-forms of your class to talk. Maybe some zoo and the chimps. Taking a heavy cable and beating? Why you’d do it, if not either to severely injure or to kill. Severely injuring always takes the risc of kill. That is either murder (planned kill, or short-decided intentional kill, out of lowest moralic reasons), or homicide (all other kinds of intentional kill, including killing while trying to severely injure – as that plan includes the risc of death). And when a 17 (seventeen) year old girl does not obey in simple terms like piericngs that is no reason to hurt or kill at all, no matter what some way fictional books, written by people to strenghen theit own power 4000 years ago are telling.
So go to tha apes and talk with them, better suited for you. And leave us humans alone here. Undergo a few million of years evolution, than maybe it’s time to try to talk again.
About the article: This crime is really shocking and very sad. That happens in all countries, or better, in all circles od civilisation, where the value of live, but also the value of freedom is not accepted, whre kids are not seen as humans till they are grown up (and women probalby never). It happens everywhere where the “human rights” are not praised. You find that in some low educational classes od the western countries, but really epidemic everywhere else… See the status of human rights in South Africa, and that kind of violence is way less surprising, while still shoking.
#16, social coma: You know what: Be silently ashamed when huans are talking and go to other places to find live-forms of your class to talk. Maybe some zoo and the chimps. Taking a heavy cable and beating? Why you’d do it, if not either to severely injure or to kill. Severely injuring always takes the risc of kill. That is either murder (planned kill, or short-decided intentional kill, out of lowest moralic reasons), or homicide (all other kinds of intentional kill, including killing while trying to severely injure – as that plan includes the risc of death). And when a 17 (seventeen) year old girl does not obey in simple terms like piericngs that is no reason to hurt or kill at all, no matter what some way fictional books, written by people to strenghen theit own power 4000 years ago are telling.
So go to tha apes and talk with them, better suited for you. And leave us humans alone here. Undergo a few million of years evolution, than maybe it’s time to try to talk again.
About the article: This crime is really shocking and very sad. That happens in all countries, or better, in all circles od civilisation, where the value of live, but also the value of freedom is not accepted, whre kids are not seen as humans till they are grown up (and women probalby never). It happens everywhere where the “human rights” are not praised. You find that in some low educational classes od the western countries, but really epidemic everywhere else… See the status of human rights in South Africa, and that kind of violence is way less surprising, while still shoking.
#16, social coma: You know what: Be silently ashamed when huans are talking and go to other places to find live-forms of your class to talk. Maybe some zoo and the chimps. Taking a heavy cable and beating? Why you’d do it, if not either to severely injure or to kill. Severely injuring always takes the risc of kill. That is either murder (planned kill, or short-decided intentional kill, out of lowest moralic reasons), or homicide (all other kinds of intentional kill, including killing while trying to severely injure – as that plan includes the risc of death). And when a 17 (seventeen) year old girl does not obey in simple terms like piericngs that is no reason to hurt or kill at all, no matter what some way fictional books, written by people to strenghen theit own power 4000 years ago are telling.
So go to tha apes and talk with them, better suited for you. And leave us humans alone here. Undergo a few million of years evolution, than maybe it’s time to try to talk again.
About the article: This crime is really shocking and very sad. That happens in all countries, or better, in all circles od civilisation, where the value of live, but also the value of freedom is not accepted, whre kids are not seen as humans till they are grown up (and women probalby never). It happens everywhere where the “human rights” are not praised. You find that in some low educational classes od the western countries, but really epidemic everywhere else… See the status of human rights in South Africa, and that kind of violence is way less surprising, while still shoking.
#16, social coma: You know what: Be silently ashamed when huans are talking and go to other places to find live-forms of your class to talk. Maybe some zoo and the chimps. Taking a heavy cable and beating? Why you’d do it, if not either to severely injure or to kill. Severely injuring always takes the risc of kill. That is either murder (planned kill, or short-decided intentional kill, out of lowest moralic reasons), or homicide (all other kinds of intentional kill, including killing while trying to severely injure – as that plan includes the risc of death). And when a 17 (seventeen) year old girl does not obey in simple terms like piericngs that is no reason to hurt or kill at all, no matter what some way fictional books, written by people to strenghen theit own power 4000 years ago are telling.
So go to tha apes and talk with them, better suited for you. And leave us humans alone here. Undergo a few million of years evolution, than maybe it’s time to try to talk again.
About the article: This crime is really shocking and very sad. That happens in all countries, or better, in all circles od civilisation, where the value of live, but also the value of freedom is not accepted, whre kids are not seen as humans till they are grown up (and women probalby never). It happens everywhere where the “human rights” are not praised. You find that in some low educational classes od the western countries, but really epidemic everywhere else… See the status of human rights in South Africa, and that kind of violence is way less surprising, while still shoking.
http://www.sowetan.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=1084272
Another newspaper article
http://www.sowetan.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=1084272
Another newspaper article
http://www.sowetan.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=1084272
Another newspaper article
http://www.sowetan.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=1084272
Another newspaper article
Absolutely sickening. I hope he cries himself to sleep every night for the rest of his life.
Absolutely sickening. I hope he cries himself to sleep every night for the rest of his life.
Absolutely sickening. I hope he cries himself to sleep every night for the rest of his life.
Absolutely sickening. I hope he cries himself to sleep every night for the rest of his life.
#23, stormchaser : Thanks for your lesson on criminal law you fucking smartass douche.
#23, stormchaser : Thanks for your lesson on criminal law you fucking smartass douche.
#23, stormchaser : Thanks for your lesson on criminal law you fucking smartass douche.
#23, stormchaser : Thanks for your lesson on criminal law you fucking smartass douche.
I’m going to choose to see this as homicide, first and foremost. However, intentional killing? Doubt it.
From the father’s view he was “disciplining his daughter for disobeying”, not “killing her for a tongue piercing”.
I don’t believe it’s our smug job to judge how the rest of the world (meaning not North America, Europe, and most “developed” nations) deals with civil punishment, and criminal law. What we think is “right” isn’t always necessarily. I don’t support murder, obviously, but as a general social commentary, it’s easy for us to forget that what they hold to be “right”, they hold just as strong as what we deem.
By the father rushing her to the hospital, and turning himself in for the murder, he is obviously showing his unintention and remorse. My heart goes out to him, and the rest of his family.
@ Stormchaser, I believe it’s truly ignorant to believe that; if his INTENTION was to kill, he’d have used a machete, probably not a cord. It wasn’t long ago parents and teachers on our side of the world (I’m from Canada, but I do realize BME is international) were beating disobedient children with belts, the organic alternative.
I’m going to choose to see this as homicide, first and foremost. However, intentional killing? Doubt it.
From the father’s view he was “disciplining his daughter for disobeying”, not “killing her for a tongue piercing”.
I don’t believe it’s our smug job to judge how the rest of the world (meaning not North America, Europe, and most “developed” nations) deals with civil punishment, and criminal law. What we think is “right” isn’t always necessarily. I don’t support murder, obviously, but as a general social commentary, it’s easy for us to forget that what they hold to be “right”, they hold just as strong as what we deem.
By the father rushing her to the hospital, and turning himself in for the murder, he is obviously showing his unintention and remorse. My heart goes out to him, and the rest of his family.
@ Stormchaser, I believe it’s truly ignorant to believe that; if his INTENTION was to kill, he’d have used a machete, probably not a cord. It wasn’t long ago parents and teachers on our side of the world (I’m from Canada, but I do realize BME is international) were beating disobedient children with belts, the organic alternative.
I’m going to choose to see this as homicide, first and foremost. However, intentional killing? Doubt it.
From the father’s view he was “disciplining his daughter for disobeying”, not “killing her for a tongue piercing”.
I don’t believe it’s our smug job to judge how the rest of the world (meaning not North America, Europe, and most “developed” nations) deals with civil punishment, and criminal law. What we think is “right” isn’t always necessarily. I don’t support murder, obviously, but as a general social commentary, it’s easy for us to forget that what they hold to be “right”, they hold just as strong as what we deem.
By the father rushing her to the hospital, and turning himself in for the murder, he is obviously showing his unintention and remorse. My heart goes out to him, and the rest of his family.
@ Stormchaser, I believe it’s truly ignorant to believe that; if his INTENTION was to kill, he’d have used a machete, probably not a cord. It wasn’t long ago parents and teachers on our side of the world (I’m from Canada, but I do realize BME is international) were beating disobedient children with belts, the organic alternative.
I’m going to choose to see this as homicide, first and foremost. However, intentional killing? Doubt it.
From the father’s view he was “disciplining his daughter for disobeying”, not “killing her for a tongue piercing”.
I don’t believe it’s our smug job to judge how the rest of the world (meaning not North America, Europe, and most “developed” nations) deals with civil punishment, and criminal law. What we think is “right” isn’t always necessarily. I don’t support murder, obviously, but as a general social commentary, it’s easy for us to forget that what they hold to be “right”, they hold just as strong as what we deem.
By the father rushing her to the hospital, and turning himself in for the murder, he is obviously showing his unintention and remorse. My heart goes out to him, and the rest of his family.
@ Stormchaser, I believe it’s truly ignorant to believe that; if his INTENTION was to kill, he’d have used a machete, probably not a cord. It wasn’t long ago parents and teachers on our side of the world (I’m from Canada, but I do realize BME is international) were beating disobedient children with belts, the organic alternative.
@ 36: I think it would be manslaughter charges if this happened in the U.S, otherwise completely spot on.
My personal favorite organic alternative was the wooden spoon. Had quite a few of those broken over my ass.
@ 36: I think it would be manslaughter charges if this happened in the U.S, otherwise completely spot on.
My personal favorite organic alternative was the wooden spoon. Had quite a few of those broken over my ass.
@ 36: I think it would be manslaughter charges if this happened in the U.S, otherwise completely spot on.
My personal favorite organic alternative was the wooden spoon. Had quite a few of those broken over my ass.
@ 36: I think it would be manslaughter charges if this happened in the U.S, otherwise completely spot on.
My personal favorite organic alternative was the wooden spoon. Had quite a few of those broken over my ass.
@36: He beated a bitstreonger than usuual… Indeed he did probably not want to kill, but to injure very painful. And doing so there is a risc of killing. And that risc he took willingly. That’s like the 2 stupid assholes who killed the old man recently in Germany (and some other case like that in Austria). In both cases they only intended to injure as punishment for some action. In both cases they willingly took the risc of going too far. In both cases in 2 different countries with different laws, they are right now (and that’s good so) charged for murderer.
@36: He beated a bitstreonger than usuual… Indeed he did probably not want to kill, but to injure very painful. And doing so there is a risc of killing. And that risc he took willingly. That’s like the 2 stupid assholes who killed the old man recently in Germany (and some other case like that in Austria). In both cases they only intended to injure as punishment for some action. In both cases they willingly took the risc of going too far. In both cases in 2 different countries with different laws, they are right now (and that’s good so) charged for murderer.