A little while ago, we got an e-mail from a man named David Kitts. Having been around the body modification community for about a decade, he’d stretched his lobes to two inches, but recently underwent surgery to reconstruct them to their original state—the idea and process of which has left him conflicted at best. He felt like his story could be useful as a cautionary of sorts, and so we spoke to him. In our interview, he discusses why he went the surgery route, what the procedure itself entailed, the effects it’s had on him mentally and more—after the jump.
BME: First off, just for some background, what do you do for a living?
David Kitts: Well, I’ve been in and out of piercing and performing some of the heavier mods for about eight years now, working straight jobs when I couldn’t afford to work at shops. I have been, for several months, working for myself rehabbing old bikes, mopeds and motorcycles, and just got a decent job at a large-box sporting goods store.
BME: So, at what point did you realize body modification was going to be an important part of your life?
DK: When I was about 16, I heard about a local 4:20 shop in Lexington, South Carolina, that also had a piercing shop. I started hanging out mainly because of my parents’ hatred of piercings, and I read a book they had there—I can’t remember the name, but it did have a “pierced” cover with a large CBR—and was fascinated. (This was back in 1999-2000, before it really became fashionable to have “belly” rings and all that.) The day after my birthday, I got my ears pierced at 10 gauge and bought a set of eight gauges for when I could go up. There was a guy there named Lonnie who had a ton of facial piercings and a set of early monster CBRs that were a half-inch and 10.3 ounces each; I have them now. I loved the way it looked, and the impermanence of it was kinda nice. It didn’t hurt for as long as a tattoo did, but it still made the wearer, for the most part, beautiful.
Since then, I’ve had 257 piercings (I’ve kept track), including cheeks, three bridge, eight nape (that were 1.5-inches long point-to-point) and 1.25-inch-long surface bars vertically in the back of my arms, three each side. Also, the one that freaked the piercer out was a two-inch-long, 10-gauge madison done with Tygon.
BME: Now, the photos you sent in recently showed your ears post-surgery after having your two-inch lobes closed up. First of all, how long did it take you to get your lobes to that size?
DK: I got to one inch in a bit under two years. I got stuck for a while, because of jobs and lack of jewelry, but one day I tried to shove something in that was bigger and they went fast as hell after that. I went from a little bigger than a Coke cap to two inches in six months. My ears stretched on their own, probably because I played with them (unconsciously) during the day and slept with the earrings in. In fact, the large tunnels I had that were my “goal,” I wore for a week before they fell out.
BME: How long ago did you get your lobes up to that size?
DK: About eight, months or so. I got to two inches and was happy as hell; that was a “size goal,” as it were. I was already heading past it when I had surgery.
BME: It sounds like this was something into which you’d put some effort and of which you were proud, but we’re talking today because you’ve since had your lobes reconstructed. What led to this?
DK: Well, regarding that “goal” of two inches, I said that I’d consider getting them put back to “normal” after. So, when I got there, ironically, I was introduced to one of Charleston’s top plastic surgeons. We got to talking and he agreed to do the work, way before I realized what exactly I was doing, but I had a few months to decide whether or not to go through with the surgery due to schedule conflicts, so no big deal.
I had been out of a “real” job since December, and no one would hire me because of the piercings. The tattoos on my hands and arms were fine, the bats on my neck were OK, even my stretched nostrils were passable, but not the ears. And hey, I’m almost 27, so I sat down one night and went over everything: How I felt about how I looked versus “mainstream” people, and the future. This was a chance that I couldn’t pass up—having my lobes redone, that is—but I didn’t know if I could live with myself if I did. I felt like I’d be giving in. I’ve always been a fighter for individuality. I tried to make sure I stood up for people who expressed themselves differently, be they transgendered or just heavily tattooed, I didn’t care—it’s a choice. I just happened to go a little more into the deep end, as it were.
So, for about three weeks, I struggled with whether or not I would be OK with myself afterward, if my friends would be, and what would happen. For all I knew, I could do all this and never get another real job and be severely pissed because of it. But, I figured I could always redo the ears if time allowed, and that I’d be an idiot to not give the surgery a chance. So I went for it. It’s been hard dealing with day-to-day things now. Harder than I expected.
BME: Just to backtrack for a minute, you said that beforehand, you considered shrinking your ears back down to “normal” once you reached two inches. By “normal,” do you mean a smaller diameter, or closed up as they are now? And what was the motivation to reach two inches if you had already decided it could just be a temporary thing?
DK: I was referring to getting surgery when I got to two inches. I knew it’d take a while to let them shrink, and I think I was well past being able to go back to something “socially acceptable.” I wanted them forever—it wasn’t a temporary decision. When I got to two inches (I figured it’d be quite a while), I’d evaluate my life and see if anything needed to be done. If life was good, I’d keep them. If not, I’d figure something out—either let them shrink as much as they’d go, or surgery. Basically, I’d get to two inches and see where the lobes fit into my life and deal with them accordingly.
BME: Got it. So obviously, they were interfering in a way that was complicating your life. How did you end up meeting the surgeon who did the procedure? Had he done that specific kind of work before?
DK: A friend of mine introduced us at some function; we got to talking about it and he said he’d be willing. Not too sure if he had done this specifically, but he had mentioned he’d worked on some people who had ripped lobes (like little old ladies). But, he provided me a good service. He’s strictly a facial surgeon—he does a lot of charity work for children with cleft palates, making them more “normal” and all. He works from the neck up, and there’s another doctor in the office that works from the neck down.
BME: Was it an expensive procedure?
DK: It cost me $1,300, and I got a good deal.
BME: What did the procedure entail?
DK: Well, at least one week before, he wanted me to take the jewelry out so that the lobes could relax some. (I didn’t label them like I wanted, but in those pictures, the ones where my lobes look all fat are the day of, right before surgery.) When I went in, pictures were taken and I was led to a “recovery suite” to wait. When we finally went up to the O.R., it was all very quick. After being covered and cleaned, he injected a shot of local anesthetic in each lobe that had a vascular constrictor in it to slow blood flow. I couldn’t feel anything past that.
He started by taking surgical scissors to the right lobe and just cut 80 percent off. I may have had about a quarter inch on each side left. He had to cauterize the right lobe because the constrictor wasn’t fully effective yet, but the pain killer was (thankfully). After some measuring, he trimmed the ends a bit (where he already cut) and skinned my inner lobe into an upside-down “U” to remove the skin that used to sit on the saddle of the jewelry. That was done so that when he sewed me up, there wouldn’t be any little holes where healed skin was left. He repeated the same steps for the left side, but the skin in the front of my lobe near the tragus was thinner than the right lobe, so it went faster with a lot less trimming needed. I think it’s the more normal-looking of the two.
After all was cut, he sewed me mostly with dissolving stitches—about eight in each ear, I think he said. He did add one stitch from my lobe to my neck to promote them healing “down,” and he forgot to test the area on my neck to see if it was numb before that. It wasn’t numb, but the pain wasn’t bad. Afterwards, beyond NeoSporin, there were no special instructions. They healed almost completely in a week, and I went to the beach in a week and a half. And thats it! Fun. The weirdest part was being awake the whole time and hearing the scissors cutting. It sounded like cardboard.
BME: That seems pretty straightforward. And how long ago did you have it done?
DK: Two weeks ago, and I got hired to a good position at a sporting goods store after putting in two applications on Thursday of last week. So yeah, I’d say it worked.
BME: So you feel comfortable attributing that quick turnaround to the surgery, then?
DK: Oh, yeah. I asked about a job before and the manager rejected me and told me why. Then I came back after the surgery and he said he wanted me to work there now that my lobes were back to normal.
BME: But even still, you say it’s been hard to deal with.
DK: Yeah. More personally than anything.
BME: How so?
DK: Well, for years I’d had these stretched ears. I always got the, “Did that hurt?” question, and had come-backs for just about anything people could throw at me. I also had a reason when people stared at me. I knew why, but when I went out without the lobes, people still stared, and it felt like I lost my shield. I felt defenseless, and it scared me. I still feel the same way, and it bothers me now more than ever when people give me weird looks. It used to be easily written off—now, not so much. And when I look in the mirror, I’m not happy. It looks like a fake me, like someone else, and it really bugs me. It was such a big part of my life, now that they’re gone it really bothers me. I’ve lost a few friends too, and now I have to go through explaining to everyone that knew me before why I did this. And I still get asked if it fucking hurt.
BME: Without getting too Dr. Phil about this, why on earth would you lose friends over something like this? That seems ridiculous.
DK: I know. But to them, they viewed me as a sellout. In one’s words, I “turned my back on them,” which is B.S., but whatever.
BME: B.S. indeed. Before the surgery, did you expect your personal adjustment would have been easier than it has been?
DK: Yeah. I figured I’d miss the “old me,” but I didn’t think it would be anything like it is now. You know the biggest insult I’ve gotten so far? “You look so much better now!”
BME: So, between not quite feeling like yourself minus your stretched lobes and having others call you a “sellout,” what do you think? Do you consider yourself a sellout or anything like that?
DK: A tiny bit, yes, because I don’t think I should have to change for a job. I’m still as good an employee with the lobes, and I feel that I, and everyone else, should be accepted for who we are. It’s not like I got all this shit done to not get a job, you know? I just wanted to be beautiful, the way I saw it. I could still sell stuff or do any number of jobs, but because of the way I looked, I was prejudged as a “bad person” and unemployable. There are only so many Hot Topics in an area, and working as a bouncer kinda sucks. But I am doing what’s best for me and my future now that I’m a little bit older and wiser.
BME: Knowing what you do now and how things have turned out, do you regret stretching your lobes that big in the first place?
DK: Not at all. The friends I’ve made, the conversations that have been started with them—hell, I even won a trip to see the Jerry Springer show because of them. I hope to have opened some people’s eyes to this type of modification. I’ve spoken at some schools on the right way to get pierced, and the importance of waiting (pre-surgery) and plan on doing the same after. My ears did get me a job at a few haunted houses. Imagine a 250-pound, six-foot-tall tall guy with running chain-saws attached to his lobes running at you.
I will continue to advocate modifying yourself as you see fit, so long as it is in a safe environment. And I will still get modified in other ways. There’s plenty left for me to do, and now I can say I’m an amputee of sorts—I nullo’d my lobes [laughs].
BME: Before we wrap up, anything you’d like to add?
DK: Sure. The main reason I came to you to put this out there is because I know there are a lot of young readers on BME, and this experience is for them. People like Allen Falkner and Erik Sprague don’t need to hear this, but the ones that go on ModBlog and who do see the glory and beauty in modification, there can be a harsh reality that, if you don’t plan on it, can come back and bite you in the ass. I just want people thinking about doing this to know there are consequences, but I don’t want to divert anyone—I just want to show both sides. I wouldn’t change anything I’ve done at all. I loved my lobes when I had them, and I miss them and am dealing with the emotions without them now, but I stand by my choices.
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162 responses to “Losing Your Lobes: An Interview With David Kitts”
This will be short, but ill address what I can.
When I got my ears pierced, I wanted what was then extreme, around 00ga. I never said I couldn’t afford the jewelry (I don’t think) I just couldn’t find it. I never actively stretched, just played a bit subconciously with them, say tugging them while on the computer.
And I’ve been stretching for almost 10 years before doing this. My sizes have varied, so I don’t see how I went too fast. Yeah, sometimes I was able to make big jumps. in charleston, smaller ears are normal. But when you’re basically one of 3 people with over 2″ you tend to stand out.
And I didn’t do this just to get a job. Especially at a sporting goods store. They, and 3 others called me back and I liked what they offered. I have a somewhat different life now, and I felt that 2″ was a good goal, and id reevaluate where my life was when/if I got there. Most places I am trained to work (retail, food etc) don’t alow you to look like I do either for customer relations or sanitation. Would you like to find a plug in your soup?
So I did it for a lot of reasons. And this wasn’t ever to be a preachy piece, I wanted this out there so the young people that come to this site to get inspiration can see that there is a reality. I’ve delt with how I look, and I know that I am limited and I didn’t want that for myself. Not for my family or their future.
I have worked for myself, and was when I decided to get this done. I was making decent money, but nothing reliable. I didn’t like not knowing if I could get real food one week or be a little hungry till the next job came in, and if it were just me, I wouldn’t have so much of an issue.
I never regretted my choice to modify my body. Not once was I unhappy with my lobes. They brought me much joy over the years. I am going to continue to get worked on in different ways, all with thought a planning. If I didn’t think it thru, id already have transdermals and those are no fun to get/take out.
I am happy with who I was, and I am learning to be happy as I am now. I do feel as if a part of me is missing, but it fades. I do feel socially akward now that they’re gone, but im adjusting. Life goes on.
In the end, I wish we could all be judged solely by our resumes and the person we really are instead of what we look like. I know some of the crap Paully U. went through in Indiana and I still went ahead with my modifications. How can I go almost 10 years and not see the ramifications?
In the end, it was my choice, and mine alone to deal with but I hoped to show the other side of it all since its rarely shown. Sorry if I offended by trying to educate, albeit not so eloquently. DK
This will be short, but ill address what I can.
When I got my ears pierced, I wanted what was then extreme, around 00ga. I never said I couldn’t afford the jewelry (I don’t think) I just couldn’t find it. I never actively stretched, just played a bit subconciously with them, say tugging them while on the computer.
And I’ve been stretching for almost 10 years before doing this. My sizes have varied, so I don’t see how I went too fast. Yeah, sometimes I was able to make big jumps. in charleston, smaller ears are normal. But when you’re basically one of 3 people with over 2″ you tend to stand out.
And I didn’t do this just to get a job. Especially at a sporting goods store. They, and 3 others called me back and I liked what they offered. I have a somewhat different life now, and I felt that 2″ was a good goal, and id reevaluate where my life was when/if I got there. Most places I am trained to work (retail, food etc) don’t alow you to look like I do either for customer relations or sanitation. Would you like to find a plug in your soup?
So I did it for a lot of reasons. And this wasn’t ever to be a preachy piece, I wanted this out there so the young people that come to this site to get inspiration can see that there is a reality. I’ve delt with how I look, and I know that I am limited and I didn’t want that for myself. Not for my family or their future.
I have worked for myself, and was when I decided to get this done. I was making decent money, but nothing reliable. I didn’t like not knowing if I could get real food one week or be a little hungry till the next job came in, and if it were just me, I wouldn’t have so much of an issue.
I never regretted my choice to modify my body. Not once was I unhappy with my lobes. They brought me much joy over the years. I am going to continue to get worked on in different ways, all with thought a planning. If I didn’t think it thru, id already have transdermals and those are no fun to get/take out.
I am happy with who I was, and I am learning to be happy as I am now. I do feel as if a part of me is missing, but it fades. I do feel socially akward now that they’re gone, but im adjusting. Life goes on.
In the end, I wish we could all be judged solely by our resumes and the person we really are instead of what we look like. I know some of the crap Paully U. went through in Indiana and I still went ahead with my modifications. How can I go almost 10 years and not see the ramifications?
In the end, it was my choice, and mine alone to deal with but I hoped to show the other side of it all since its rarely shown. Sorry if I offended by trying to educate, albeit not so eloquently. DK
The interview:
BME: That seems pretty straightforward. And how long ago did you have it done?
DK: Two weeks ago, and I got hired to a good position at a sporting goods store after putting in two applications on Thursday of last week. So yeah, I’d say it worked.
BME: So you feel comfortable attributing that quick turnaround to the surgery, then?
DK: Oh, yeah. I asked about a job before and the manager rejected me and told me why. Then I came back after the surgery and he said he wanted me to work there now that my lobes were back to normal.
Your follow up comment:
“And I didn’t do this just to get a job. Especially at a sporting goods store”
I could keep going on but this is just getting old.
The interview:
BME: That seems pretty straightforward. And how long ago did you have it done?
DK: Two weeks ago, and I got hired to a good position at a sporting goods store after putting in two applications on Thursday of last week. So yeah, I’d say it worked.
BME: So you feel comfortable attributing that quick turnaround to the surgery, then?
DK: Oh, yeah. I asked about a job before and the manager rejected me and told me why. Then I came back after the surgery and he said he wanted me to work there now that my lobes were back to normal.
Your follow up comment:
“And I didn’t do this just to get a job. Especially at a sporting goods store”
I could keep going on but this is just getting old.
from granule “being good enough at a skill/trade or being educated enough makes the world not care what you look like because they care more about what you have to offer.”
and from Mr. Matt “The thing that I think everyone is overlooking is that just because you are a blue collar worker doesn’t mean that you can’t have the modifications that you want. You just need to be skilled enough to create some demand for your abilities.”
these comments are spot on.
from granule “being good enough at a skill/trade or being educated enough makes the world not care what you look like because they care more about what you have to offer.”
and from Mr. Matt “The thing that I think everyone is overlooking is that just because you are a blue collar worker doesn’t mean that you can’t have the modifications that you want. You just need to be skilled enough to create some demand for your abilities.”
these comments are spot on.
I can totally relate to this story. I wanted to study medicine for quite some time, and felt my lobes would be a factor in getting into a good university. It’s now a couple of years down the line from me having my lobes reversed, and I regret it all the time. I love the look of stretched lobes, and feel it did become a big part of who i was, shallow as it may seem. I have very little tissue left to stretch now, but will put my every effort into stretching them back up once i finish my nursing degree which i ended up doing instead. Don’t do reconstructive surgery unless you feel truly unhappy with something. Doing it to adhere to social norm is utter bullshit, and although you gotta sacrifice A to get B sometimes, it’s all about individual priorities. mmyeah..
I can totally relate to this story. I wanted to study medicine for quite some time, and felt my lobes would be a factor in getting into a good university. It’s now a couple of years down the line from me having my lobes reversed, and I regret it all the time. I love the look of stretched lobes, and feel it did become a big part of who i was, shallow as it may seem. I have very little tissue left to stretch now, but will put my every effort into stretching them back up once i finish my nursing degree which i ended up doing instead. Don’t do reconstructive surgery unless you feel truly unhappy with something. Doing it to adhere to social norm is utter bullshit, and although you gotta sacrifice A to get B sometimes, it’s all about individual priorities. mmyeah..
#40, Granule
Actually I tossed around the idea of having my labret cut for around 2 years, it was something I knew would change alot of my opportunities in life depending on what I wanted to do. I was fully aware of the consequences so I would’nt consider any of my mods to be hasty decisions, I thought of them all as being permanent before I got them. With the way things are going though I can’t afford to have that mindset anymore and it’s apparent that other people in this community are feeling that crunch too, I’d love to keep my lobes, hell I’d love to have my labret back out to 1/2″ and be working on getting my lobes stretched out more but it seems like it is’nt the best idea for some of us.
#40, Granule
Actually I tossed around the idea of having my labret cut for around 2 years, it was something I knew would change alot of my opportunities in life depending on what I wanted to do. I was fully aware of the consequences so I would’nt consider any of my mods to be hasty decisions, I thought of them all as being permanent before I got them. With the way things are going though I can’t afford to have that mindset anymore and it’s apparent that other people in this community are feeling that crunch too, I’d love to keep my lobes, hell I’d love to have my labret back out to 1/2″ and be working on getting my lobes stretched out more but it seems like it is’nt the best idea for some of us.
I think I’m going to get a job at Dick’s Sporting Goods. I’ll stitch up my labret and cut off my lobes.
Oh wait, nevermind.
I stretched what I did and tattooed what I did for myself…without asking for approval of my job. While being modified I climbed from snowboard shop grom to manager that makes all marketing decisions, runs events, etc. I can move one day to become a sales rep or district manager of a brand or higher if I wish. And make more than anyone ever will at a sporting goods store.
Either way, whether or not if I have potential for big money or not, I am modified for myself. It’s what makes me happy.
Best wishes to you and hopefully your decision to reverse those years of work will become what makes you happy.
I think I’m going to get a job at Dick’s Sporting Goods. I’ll stitch up my labret and cut off my lobes.
Oh wait, nevermind.
I stretched what I did and tattooed what I did for myself…without asking for approval of my job. While being modified I climbed from snowboard shop grom to manager that makes all marketing decisions, runs events, etc. I can move one day to become a sales rep or district manager of a brand or higher if I wish. And make more than anyone ever will at a sporting goods store.
Either way, whether or not if I have potential for big money or not, I am modified for myself. It’s what makes me happy.
Best wishes to you and hopefully your decision to reverse those years of work will become what makes you happy.
I wrote an article on ear lobe removal (Ear Today, Gone Tomorrow) that one day I’m sure I’ll get around to posting that featured a lot of pull-quotes from people who had their lobe stretching removed/reversed. The common thread was the reality bubble “pushing” of the “us versus the plainskins” agenda that made it seem like having stretched lobes made them a cultural revolutionary.
Then one-upmanship took over and the next thing you know they ended up looking like the bme logo; while not intentional on their part, you do have to pull the camera back and wonder if there wasn’t an agenda there.
The funny thing is they all said that they got more flack from pierced people for removing their stretched lobes than they did from non modified people for HAVING stretched lobes.
In closing, I didnt even read the article this is attached to and was just musing outloud.
Cheers.
I wrote an article on ear lobe removal (Ear Today, Gone Tomorrow) that one day I’m sure I’ll get around to posting that featured a lot of pull-quotes from people who had their lobe stretching removed/reversed. The common thread was the reality bubble “pushing” of the “us versus the plainskins” agenda that made it seem like having stretched lobes made them a cultural revolutionary.
Then one-upmanship took over and the next thing you know they ended up looking like the bme logo; while not intentional on their part, you do have to pull the camera back and wonder if there wasn’t an agenda there.
The funny thing is they all said that they got more flack from pierced people for removing their stretched lobes than they did from non modified people for HAVING stretched lobes.
In closing, I didnt even read the article this is attached to and was just musing outloud.
Cheers.
I just have one comment to all of this. You did it for a job. You didn’t do it for yourself, or your beliefs and the fact that your nostral piercings were more acceptable then your ear lobes makes me question the company or the person who hired you. I mean, what if a year from now he’s telling you it’s part of your job to suck his dick under the table and fondle his balls and if you don’t do it, then I guess you don’t belong with that company. To me, on a personal level, your basically telling everyone that you can be walked on, told what to do and lead just like any other sheep.
I understand you need to eat, we all do. But if people keep allowing “society” to dick-tate what we can and can’t do with our bodies, or what is “socially” acceptable then I guess we might as well go back to segregation and throw woman’s rights in the trash can.
I just have one comment to all of this. You did it for a job. You didn’t do it for yourself, or your beliefs and the fact that your nostral piercings were more acceptable then your ear lobes makes me question the company or the person who hired you. I mean, what if a year from now he’s telling you it’s part of your job to suck his dick under the table and fondle his balls and if you don’t do it, then I guess you don’t belong with that company. To me, on a personal level, your basically telling everyone that you can be walked on, told what to do and lead just like any other sheep.
I understand you need to eat, we all do. But if people keep allowing “society” to dick-tate what we can and can’t do with our bodies, or what is “socially” acceptable then I guess we might as well go back to segregation and throw woman’s rights in the trash can.
damn they have rights?
damn they have rights?
“I understand you need to eat, we all do. But if people keep allowing “society” to dick-tate what we can and can’t do with our bodies, or what is “socially” acceptable then I guess we might as well go back to segregation and throw woman’s rights in the trash can.”
You’re out of your mind if you think stretching your lobes can be compared with the civil rights movement or womens rights, we all made the CHOICE to do these things to our bodies, we all knew that it would have some consequences with it that might make it harder on us in life, potential employers have the right to turn you down for a job based on your apperiance. I’m so tired of people acting like they are revolutionaries or in some struggle for freedom of expression just because they stretched their lobes or nostrils or whatever they may have done that society looks down on, most of you are jerks like me that just wanted to look cool so stop acting like you’re fucking Cliche Guevara
“I understand you need to eat, we all do. But if people keep allowing “society” to dick-tate what we can and can’t do with our bodies, or what is “socially” acceptable then I guess we might as well go back to segregation and throw woman’s rights in the trash can.”
You’re out of your mind if you think stretching your lobes can be compared with the civil rights movement or womens rights, we all made the CHOICE to do these things to our bodies, we all knew that it would have some consequences with it that might make it harder on us in life, potential employers have the right to turn you down for a job based on your apperiance. I’m so tired of people acting like they are revolutionaries or in some struggle for freedom of expression just because they stretched their lobes or nostrils or whatever they may have done that society looks down on, most of you are jerks like me that just wanted to look cool so stop acting like you’re fucking Cliche Guevara
another reason people should think long and hard about their choices in modifications BEFORE they do them. no skills, education, or otherwise makertable asset to an employer should be a consideration BEFORE you modify yourself.
another reason people should think long and hard about their choices in modifications BEFORE they do them. no skills, education, or otherwise makertable asset to an employer should be a consideration BEFORE you modify yourself.
another reason people should think long and hard about their choices in modifications BEFORE they do them. no skills, education, or otherwise marketable asset to an employer should be a consideration BEFORE you modify yourself.
another reason people should think long and hard about their choices in modifications BEFORE they do them. no skills, education, or otherwise marketable asset to an employer should be a consideration BEFORE you modify yourself.
I have serious issues with people who get facial tattoos/visible tattoos or long term modifications at my age.
There’s plenty of time to get those, why rush now and reduce your chances of getting a job in todays society?
I have serious issues with people who get facial tattoos/visible tattoos or long term modifications at my age.
There’s plenty of time to get those, why rush now and reduce your chances of getting a job in todays society?
The surgeon did an excellent job.
The surgeon did an excellent job.
what do u exspect no qualifacation no skill in ur hand u were looking for averge bum jobs like work in a fukin store with big ears u plum
your 26 and work in shoe shop GREAT!
what do u exspect no qualifacation no skill in ur hand u were looking for averge bum jobs like work in a fukin store with big ears u plum
your 26 and work in shoe shop GREAT!
Just to clarify, yes Mike we do have Rights.
And “J” I think if you knew me, you’d rephrase your comment. I’ve been in the modification industry for 22 years now, I’m not some young moron making a blanket statement on a website. And I have fought for freedom of expression through Body Modification for just as long.
As with most young people I’ve spoken to regarding the choice of heavy modification at a young age, your quick to jump the gun. I actually have spent the last year advocating abstinence from heavy modification until over the age of 25. I feel that at that age you know pretty well what your going to do with your life and which direction you want to go in. These young people who heavy modifications at 18,19 and 20-25 are the ones your hearing about today.
And on a much personal level, back in 1984 I had my hands and arms tattoo’d, that was a struggle I accepted being as a female, much like the struggle of 13 years in Scary Gary Indiana to work in Roy Coopers shop, aka Roy Boy. So please understand where my comments come from and kindly respect your elders.
Just to clarify, yes Mike we do have Rights.
And “J” I think if you knew me, you’d rephrase your comment. I’ve been in the modification industry for 22 years now, I’m not some young moron making a blanket statement on a website. And I have fought for freedom of expression through Body Modification for just as long.
As with most young people I’ve spoken to regarding the choice of heavy modification at a young age, your quick to jump the gun. I actually have spent the last year advocating abstinence from heavy modification until over the age of 25. I feel that at that age you know pretty well what your going to do with your life and which direction you want to go in. These young people who heavy modifications at 18,19 and 20-25 are the ones your hearing about today.
And on a much personal level, back in 1984 I had my hands and arms tattoo’d, that was a struggle I accepted being as a female, much like the struggle of 13 years in Scary Gary Indiana to work in Roy Coopers shop, aka Roy Boy. So please understand where my comments come from and kindly respect your elders.
Someone get this guy a kleenex….You went thru all this shit, spent all that money to get some crappy minimum wage job at some crappy big box store??? Your not a sell out, your a big fancy drama queen..
Someone get this guy a kleenex….You went thru all this shit, spent all that money to get some crappy minimum wage job at some crappy big box store??? Your not a sell out, your a big fancy drama queen..
From the “Ear Today, Gone Tomorrow” article:
“When I was talking about closing up my lobes the reaction I was getting was similar to the reaction I got from my smoking friends when I quit smoking. Almost everyone tried to convince me it was the wrong thing to do.
One of my friends(and I won’t name names) told me I was going to cut off my “enlightenment”. Wow, all that progress gone so quickly.”
Again, just thinking out loud.
From the “Ear Today, Gone Tomorrow” article:
“When I was talking about closing up my lobes the reaction I was getting was similar to the reaction I got from my smoking friends when I quit smoking. Almost everyone tried to convince me it was the wrong thing to do.
One of my friends(and I won’t name names) told me I was going to cut off my “enlightenment”. Wow, all that progress gone so quickly.”
Again, just thinking out loud.
lol wut?
lol wut?
exactly.
exactly.
Lol… Don’t think outloud TOO loudly Shawn.. we all know what happens.. kittens and god and such, crazy enlightenment.
Lol… Don’t think outloud TOO loudly Shawn.. we all know what happens.. kittens and god and such, crazy enlightenment.
Guys, guys, wait up, I want to judge his value as a person too!
Guys, guys, wait up, I want to judge his value as a person too!
It’s modern body modification, Cid… thinking is discouraged!
It’s modern body modification, Cid… thinking is discouraged!
Cid it was a joke sry
i have a bad habit about making those jokes at the wrong times
Cid it was a joke sry
i have a bad habit about making those jokes at the wrong times
“I mean, what if a year from now he’s telling you it’s part of your job to suck his dick under the table and fondle his balls and if you don’t do it, then I guess you don’t belong with that company.”……AHAHAHA…SPOT ON CID!!!!
“I mean, what if a year from now he’s telling you it’s part of your job to suck his dick under the table and fondle his balls and if you don’t do it, then I guess you don’t belong with that company.”……AHAHAHA…SPOT ON CID!!!!