I vaguely remember crying this much when I first had my ears pierced, I’ve toughened up a bit in the ten years since then though.
Humour aside if it were my kid (or if I were the piercer for that matter) I really would have to search myself very hard for any reason why it would be necessary or fair to pierce someone so young, someone that still isn’t able to control bodily functions most adults take for granted, let alone decide if it’s what they want. It certainly can’t be so they’re popular at nursery school, or because “all the other babies are doing it”.
Granted the physical trauma is minimal but I just don’t believe a baby belongs in a piercing environment, at all..
No offence to the mother (I’m assuming she’s the mother) in the photo but seeing my child in obvious distress, whether it be through physical pain, emotional stress or otherwise, would definitely lead me to reassess any decision that caused that distress, for a decade or so anyway.
I’m sure posting this will restart the “should kids be pierced” debate, so click the previous links then come back here if you feel like taking part or shouting at each other. Just don’t take the last two seriously..
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my kid will have 60mms before hes even 1
my kid will have 60mms before hes even 1
I’m sure the baby cries just as hard when it’s undressed at bathtime.
Get over your smug “moral” stance. Humans have been piercing, scarring, and stretching our children for hundreds, or better yet, thousands, of years.
Protecting your child against perceived “trauma” doesn’t make you a good parent. I’d hate to see the simpering idiots most of you would end up raising…
It’s common these days that parents are going to greater and greater lengths to make sure that their little snot doesn’t have to deal with any pain or difficulty in their life, leaving them ill-equipped as adults to care for themselves. Our species is breeding a wave of future simpering morons who end up as coddled, helpless adult children (or perhaps President).
Anyways, my daughter’s ears were pierced, in the studio, at 4 months. They healed beautifully, because I cleaned them nightly, and she didn’t play with them. She didn’t even know she had ears, let alone pierced ears.
Now she’s 7, and she absolutely loves wearing different earrings and such. If she felt otherwise, she could certainly take them out. As far as she’s concerned, however, her ears have always been pierced, and they always will. I don’t regret it in the least, and I know for a fact after talking to her that my daughter doesn’t resent it or wish that I hadn’t taken her to get it done as a baby.
I’m sure the baby cries just as hard when it’s undressed at bathtime.
Get over your smug “moral” stance. Humans have been piercing, scarring, and stretching our children for hundreds, or better yet, thousands, of years.
Protecting your child against perceived “trauma” doesn’t make you a good parent. I’d hate to see the simpering idiots most of you would end up raising…
It’s common these days that parents are going to greater and greater lengths to make sure that their little snot doesn’t have to deal with any pain or difficulty in their life, leaving them ill-equipped as adults to care for themselves. Our species is breeding a wave of future simpering morons who end up as coddled, helpless adult children (or perhaps President).
Anyways, my daughter’s ears were pierced, in the studio, at 4 months. They healed beautifully, because I cleaned them nightly, and she didn’t play with them. She didn’t even know she had ears, let alone pierced ears.
Now she’s 7, and she absolutely loves wearing different earrings and such. If she felt otherwise, she could certainly take them out. As far as she’s concerned, however, her ears have always been pierced, and they always will. I don’t regret it in the least, and I know for a fact after talking to her that my daughter doesn’t resent it or wish that I hadn’t taken her to get it done as a baby.
wazzup… it’s me and i am the father to this beautiful lil girl and finace’ to this beautiful lady.. i am also a piercer at a shop here in town… it was a fairly tough descision to let her get her ears pierced this young… i figured she wont remember the pain factor of it later… if she doesn’t want them later i will have no problem letting her take them out… as far as when she got pierced i was there and made sure evrything was sterile and new… as far as the jewelery, i ordered it out of a jewelery catalog that i order the shops jewelery from… i sterilized it and brought it to them in the sterilization packs… i myself watched as she pierced and marked it to make sure they were center… as far as aftercare… we used h2ocean… if it will work for mine it will work for hers… they healed nicely and doesn’t have a problem with pulling on them or anything else since she is used to them by now… and most of all i totally agree that circumsicion and baptism is a thousand times worse… pure brutality….
wazzup… it’s me and i am the father to this beautiful lil girl and finace’ to this beautiful lady.. i am also a piercer at a shop here in town… it was a fairly tough descision to let her get her ears pierced this young… i figured she wont remember the pain factor of it later… if she doesn’t want them later i will have no problem letting her take them out… as far as when she got pierced i was there and made sure evrything was sterile and new… as far as the jewelery, i ordered it out of a jewelery catalog that i order the shops jewelery from… i sterilized it and brought it to them in the sterilization packs… i myself watched as she pierced and marked it to make sure they were center… as far as aftercare… we used h2ocean… if it will work for mine it will work for hers… they healed nicely and doesn’t have a problem with pulling on them or anything else since she is used to them by now… and most of all i totally agree that circumsicion and baptism is a thousand times worse… pure brutality….
by the way that was after she had the second one done… the first one had no tearful response what so ever and within minutes of this one she was fine… thanx …
by the way that was after she had the second one done… the first one had no tearful response what so ever and within minutes of this one she was fine… thanx …
and lastly… imagine how difficult the follow through would be and a 4 month old… i honestly thought that it would be a lot more difficult.. i apologize if i was wrong and some one else could have done a better job for my daughter than her own father…
Roo… remind me to ask for mod blogs approval any time i make a descicion in life concerning my parenting choices…
and lastly… imagine how difficult the follow through would be and a 4 month old… i honestly thought that it would be a lot more difficult.. i apologize if i was wrong and some one else could have done a better job for my daughter than her own father…
Roo… remind me to ask for mod blogs approval any time i make a descicion in life concerning my parenting choices…
thats some retail store, with a gun,and nevermind the terrible placement…ugh.
thats some retail store, with a gun,and nevermind the terrible placement…ugh.
I was very young when I had my ears pierced… I was also very young when I got my first immunisation shots. I remember crying and feeling traumatised with the shots. I don’t remember the ear piercing AT ALL. True that this is for fashion and not for health, but I think a lot of you are over-reacting AND at the same time calling MY mother brutal and saying she should be shot for “mutilating” me. When in actual fact she is awesome. So STFU.
I was very young when I had my ears pierced… I was also very young when I got my first immunisation shots. I remember crying and feeling traumatised with the shots. I don’t remember the ear piercing AT ALL. True that this is for fashion and not for health, but I think a lot of you are over-reacting AND at the same time calling MY mother brutal and saying she should be shot for “mutilating” me. When in actual fact she is awesome. So STFU.
wes – you don’t need modblog approval before making parenting decisions, obviously. but your parenting choices are up for debate in this public forum whether you like it or not (if you didn’t want people to comment on your babies obvious distress in the photo, then why have this photo anywhere on the internet where it can be shown on a public forum like this anyway??).
in my opinion, no matter if the reason is cultural or asthetics, penetrating the skin of a BABY at this age for any reason other than for medical reasons that will improve a child’s health (ie. immunisations) is child abuse and mutilation. It stops being child abuse and mutilation when a child is at the age of being able to make an informed and mature decision to have their own body modified.
You may not agree with that, but you don’t have to – as I said, it was just my opinion.
wes – you don’t need modblog approval before making parenting decisions, obviously. but your parenting choices are up for debate in this public forum whether you like it or not (if you didn’t want people to comment on your babies obvious distress in the photo, then why have this photo anywhere on the internet where it can be shown on a public forum like this anyway??).
in my opinion, no matter if the reason is cultural or asthetics, penetrating the skin of a BABY at this age for any reason other than for medical reasons that will improve a child’s health (ie. immunisations) is child abuse and mutilation. It stops being child abuse and mutilation when a child is at the age of being able to make an informed and mature decision to have their own body modified.
You may not agree with that, but you don’t have to – as I said, it was just my opinion.
Culture, religion, whatever, none of that changes the fact that the poor child is being pierced against his will, with no understanding of what is going on and it is causing it unnecessary distress.
Culture, religion, whatever, none of that changes the fact that the poor child is being pierced against his will, with no understanding of what is going on and it is causing it unnecessary distress.
i’m sick of people saying that just because other cultures do these things that it’s ok for us to do them. other cultures also canibalize and kill each other. does that mean we should? i’d kick my mom in the cunt if she had pierced me as a baby! that was MY choice.
i’m sick of people saying that just because other cultures do these things that it’s ok for us to do them. other cultures also canibalize and kill each other. does that mean we should? i’d kick my mom in the cunt if she had pierced me as a baby! that was MY choice.
Yeah, that is so Claires.
I know that cheap, overpriced shit in the background from ANYWHERE!
Yeah, that is so Claires.
I know that cheap, overpriced shit in the background from ANYWHERE!
Or Icing, which is the less kiddy version of Claires.
Or Icing, which is the less kiddy version of Claires.
is that a piercing gun…..sigh considering those things are never ever cleaned, at least there’s a 90% chance it will get infected and they’ll have to be taken out so maybe she can take her child to a real place, OR as crazy as this sounds, wait till the child can make up its on mind to get pierced. Granted the woman took the kid here in the first place i m sure she’d probably just take the child back to claire’s/icing but not after she got her belly button pierced there with that thing…i am very positive that the person seen doing it there is paid well at minimum wage and probably hasn’t even gotten out of the 10th grade…le sigh =/
is that a piercing gun…..sigh considering those things are never ever cleaned, at least there’s a 90% chance it will get infected and they’ll have to be taken out so maybe she can take her child to a real place, OR as crazy as this sounds, wait till the child can make up its on mind to get pierced. Granted the woman took the kid here in the first place i m sure she’d probably just take the child back to claire’s/icing but not after she got her belly button pierced there with that thing…i am very positive that the person seen doing it there is paid well at minimum wage and probably hasn’t even gotten out of the 10th grade…le sigh =/
hi everyone…im the horrible mother who did this to her child…..and yes i took her to icings in my local mall…i myself watched as everything including the gun was opened from bran new. i would have had my husband who is a piercer at at a local shop do it, but its kinda hard to get a 4 month old to old still for a needle piercing, also i was not going to pierce my child with a 14 gauge….. ill have you know as far as consent goes.. IM her MOTHER….———– this picture is taken after the second ear was done and about two minutes after that she wasnt crying at all and had forgotten all about it…and was ready to go ride the merry-go-round..you can judge me if you like and say i should be shot and blah blah blah…but it was my decision and i dont regret it,her ears healed just fine and she never messed with them or had any problems what so ever..soooo you can have your opinions….thats fine but the comments made of my parenting skills are outlandish and unfair…..
hi everyone…im the horrible mother who did this to her child…..and yes i took her to icings in my local mall…i myself watched as everything including the gun was opened from bran new. i would have had my husband who is a piercer at at a local shop do it, but its kinda hard to get a 4 month old to old still for a needle piercing, also i was not going to pierce my child with a 14 gauge….. ill have you know as far as consent goes.. IM her MOTHER….———– this picture is taken after the second ear was done and about two minutes after that she wasnt crying at all and had forgotten all about it…and was ready to go ride the merry-go-round..you can judge me if you like and say i should be shot and blah blah blah…but it was my decision and i dont regret it,her ears healed just fine and she never messed with them or had any problems what so ever..soooo you can have your opinions….thats fine but the comments made of my parenting skills are outlandish and unfair…..
get over it wes and jen. you wouldn’t have submitted this picture to modblog if you didn’t want to start shit. i’m pretty sure that a picture of a screaming child being pierced doesn’t sit well with the general public.
get over it wes and jen. you wouldn’t have submitted this picture to modblog if you didn’t want to start shit. i’m pretty sure that a picture of a screaming child being pierced doesn’t sit well with the general public.
ummmm….trying to prevent illness is just as much of a cultural ritual as anything else….including very different methods amongst different cultures…many of which are very painful….duhhh!!….
ummmm….trying to prevent illness is just as much of a cultural ritual as anything else….including very different methods amongst different cultures…many of which are very painful….duhhh!!….
Max Brand – Ummmmm, as I said I was referring to body modification, not life preservation.
Max Brand – Ummmmm, as I said I was referring to body modification, not life preservation.
Just felt like adding a little fuel to the fire of debate. When I was three I *insisted* upon having my ears pierced, my mother made me think about it for 2 months, then if I still wanted to go ahead she would let me (I did)
I cried and yelped, but I was also so proud of myself and so happy with my pierced ears. How old is old enough to consent? Did my mother do a terrible thing by allowing her three year old daughter get her ears pierced?
Just felt like adding a little fuel to the fire of debate. When I was three I *insisted* upon having my ears pierced, my mother made me think about it for 2 months, then if I still wanted to go ahead she would let me (I did)
I cried and yelped, but I was also so proud of myself and so happy with my pierced ears. How old is old enough to consent? Did my mother do a terrible thing by allowing her three year old daughter get her ears pierced?
i dont really think it matters either way, ive never heard of anyone growing up an hating life cause they had there ears pierced young :S plus the kid wont remember the pain 5 minutes after the piercings done. plus little girls have been getting there ears pierced at 6 months or a year old or whatever for years, probably before any of us were born, No biggy really, kids bounch back from pain easy,
i dont really think it matters either way, ive never heard of anyone growing up an hating life cause they had there ears pierced young :S plus the kid wont remember the pain 5 minutes after the piercings done. plus little girls have been getting there ears pierced at 6 months or a year old or whatever for years, probably before any of us were born, No biggy really, kids bounch back from pain easy,
Lizardman, Your obviously insane and need to be sectioned. If you supply your address I will gladly make the phone call.
I’m not a big fan of children myself, but to hope this one gets an infection and dies.
Exactly what kind of human being are you?
Lizardman, Your obviously insane and need to be sectioned. If you supply your address I will gladly make the phone call.
I’m not a big fan of children myself, but to hope this one gets an infection and dies.
Exactly what kind of human being are you?
i live in spain and baby girls have their ears pierced a few days after there born… its culture and people would think you where strange if you didnt have it done
i live in spain and baby girls have their ears pierced a few days after there born… its culture and people would think you where strange if you didnt have it done
actually candice i innocently sent this picture i had know idea that it would cause such an uproar…but its fine.. i dont have to get over anything …you need to get over thinking that you know what your talkin about when you dont …soooo why dont you stick to the subject …
p.s….sounds like your the one you wants to start shit…thanx
actually candice i innocently sent this picture i had know idea that it would cause such an uproar…but its fine.. i dont have to get over anything …you need to get over thinking that you know what your talkin about when you dont …soooo why dont you stick to the subject …
p.s….sounds like your the one you wants to start shit…thanx
Ohhhh snap!….is Jen for real….
“i would have had my husband who is a piercer at at a local shop do it, but its kinda hard to get a 4 month old to old still for a needle piercing, also i was not going to pierce my child with a 14 gauge…..”
Ohhhh snap!….is Jen for real….
“i would have had my husband who is a piercer at at a local shop do it, but its kinda hard to get a 4 month old to old still for a needle piercing, also i was not going to pierce my child with a 14 gauge…..”
i instigated one reply while you instigated… over a hundred?
yeah, you’re right.
i instigated one reply while you instigated… over a hundred?
yeah, you’re right.
Although I do no necessarily agree with gun piercings, I really don’t think every person who gets a mall piercing is going to get infected.
No, Claire’s and Icing and Afterthoughts do not have access to autoclaves or sincere sterilization facilities, but it isn’t like they’re rubbing the equipment in the trash and then piercing babies.
I’ve worked at a Claire’s for over two years now, and I’ve never had anyone come in or call the store with an issue, or sue us for mutilating their body, giving them a disease, etc.
I hate piercing babies, or anyone who isn’t the one making the decision to be pierced.
Mothers pierce their little babies, who bawl (but really do get over it quickly), and then point to me and say “Look what the mean lady did to you!”
Um.
No.
I was doing my job.
You’re the one who did that to your kid.
So.
I’m not going to endorse mall piercings, I personally wouldn’t get one, but I’m not going to sit here and say they’re the most disgusting things ever. Depending on the state and county you live in affects how even mall piercings are done because the health department has strict regulations and the stores have to abide by these things. Accessory stores like Claire’s and Icing and Afterthoughts that perform ear piercings are licensed and certified through the county health department, and that license should be visible. If it isn’t, that’s when I would start to worry.
Again.
I do not agree with the ear piercing process performed at these places, but I really don’t think it’s THAT bad.
Although I do no necessarily agree with gun piercings, I really don’t think every person who gets a mall piercing is going to get infected.
No, Claire’s and Icing and Afterthoughts do not have access to autoclaves or sincere sterilization facilities, but it isn’t like they’re rubbing the equipment in the trash and then piercing babies.
I’ve worked at a Claire’s for over two years now, and I’ve never had anyone come in or call the store with an issue, or sue us for mutilating their body, giving them a disease, etc.
I hate piercing babies, or anyone who isn’t the one making the decision to be pierced.
Mothers pierce their little babies, who bawl (but really do get over it quickly), and then point to me and say “Look what the mean lady did to you!”
Um.
No.
I was doing my job.
You’re the one who did that to your kid.
So.
I’m not going to endorse mall piercings, I personally wouldn’t get one, but I’m not going to sit here and say they’re the most disgusting things ever. Depending on the state and county you live in affects how even mall piercings are done because the health department has strict regulations and the stores have to abide by these things. Accessory stores like Claire’s and Icing and Afterthoughts that perform ear piercings are licensed and certified through the county health department, and that license should be visible. If it isn’t, that’s when I would start to worry.
Again.
I do not agree with the ear piercing process performed at these places, but I really don’t think it’s THAT bad.