I love this shot of IAM: Carbon Cliché being “de-rice crispied” after a suicide suspension aided by Rites of Passage (BME gallery)..
SNAP, CRACKLE & POP!
Oh, I should have some suspension videos to post on ModBlog in the next couple of days so keep your eyes peeled, plus more vintage footage (courtesy of Shawn).
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I’ve never actually seen this done in person so I obviously have never felt what its like, but on the floor at the hospital I work on, we get thoracic surgery cases and many times our patients have something we call the ‘rice crispies’ (the actual medical term is subcutaenous emphysema) where air accumulates under the skin and if you palpate (or ‘massage’ in this case), it feels and sounds like crunching rice crispies.. I would imagine it feels like that.
..its creepy when there’s no obvious reason for skin to feel crispy, but i bet the post-suspension massage is really neat.
I’ve never actually seen this done in person so I obviously have never felt what its like, but on the floor at the hospital I work on, we get thoracic surgery cases and many times our patients have something we call the ‘rice crispies’ (the actual medical term is subcutaenous emphysema) where air accumulates under the skin and if you palpate (or ‘massage’ in this case), it feels and sounds like crunching rice crispies.. I would imagine it feels like that.
..its creepy when there’s no obvious reason for skin to feel crispy, but i bet the post-suspension massage is really neat.
the rice crispies are the best part of the suspension.
the rice crispies are the best part of the suspension.
Apparently, a few hours after the suspension, squashing out accumulated air is a bit like trying to get the bubbles out when you put plastic tint on your windows…..or thats what my boy racer friend informed me when he helped get the air out of my back :)YAY for blood bubbles….I am so upset I didn’t get any pics of mine 🙁
Apparently, a few hours after the suspension, squashing out accumulated air is a bit like trying to get the bubbles out when you put plastic tint on your windows…..or thats what my boy racer friend informed me when he helped get the air out of my back :)YAY for blood bubbles….I am so upset I didn’t get any pics of mine 🙁
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I love you too Ben! Are you straight edge now?
I love you too Ben! Are you straight edge now?
just a curious question amy…have you suspended often? be apart of a crew,etc?
Just asking because I’ve had A LARGE amount of air sucked into my back before, I’ve also heard and seen it as well. also as we all know when air pockets are in a liquid source if you smush them around they can join together to form larger bubbles.
Now I don’t think the issue is about air embolisms though…I was told a few years ago exactly WHY this is the ideal thing and it just wasn’t about “making the person feel better”…even though it most clearly does….I just can’t remember exactly why right now, as its too early and I haven’t been actively apart of suspension work in quite some time.
I will say the best/worst feeling ever was the night/day after I did a performance piece for a CBC show in Canada…After swinging for multiple songs, picking up people of various weight/size,etc…That night I groaned and moaned in pain when I moved and the next day I was bruised all over and could barely walk/talk/move/sit/everything.
just a curious question amy…have you suspended often? be apart of a crew,etc?
Just asking because I’ve had A LARGE amount of air sucked into my back before, I’ve also heard and seen it as well. also as we all know when air pockets are in a liquid source if you smush them around they can join together to form larger bubbles.
Now I don’t think the issue is about air embolisms though…I was told a few years ago exactly WHY this is the ideal thing and it just wasn’t about “making the person feel better”…even though it most clearly does….I just can’t remember exactly why right now, as its too early and I haven’t been actively apart of suspension work in quite some time.
I will say the best/worst feeling ever was the night/day after I did a performance piece for a CBC show in Canada…After swinging for multiple songs, picking up people of various weight/size,etc…That night I groaned and moaned in pain when I moved and the next day I was bruised all over and could barely walk/talk/move/sit/everything.
Warren, an air embolism is extremely unlikely to occur after a suspension. Having air under the skin, even under muscles (laparoscopic surgeries usually involve inserting vasts amounts of air in the space being worked on (usually abdomen) and though alot of it seeps out, most of it ends up pushing upwards and dissipating in the shoulders and chest area), is simply not dangerous.
You would worry about an air embolism if for some god-forsaken reason you hit a large enough vessel or an artery. If that happened though, ‘getting the air out of the wound’ would be your last concern.
I feel fairly confident that the points behind removing the air involve decreased bruising with air removal as well as quicker healing and less scar tissue accumulation. Basically like any wound: if the edges are left apart to heal, it’ll take much longer for you body to fill in the gap and get the edges together. If you do it FOR your body (i.e. stitches in a cut), it cuts out a lot of time for healing and the total amount of scar tissue will be less.
Also, leaving the air in will inevitably increase your risk of infection and possible complications.
So apart from just ‘feeling good’, I’m pretty sure those are the main reasons and that air embolisms is definitely not one of them.
Warren, an air embolism is extremely unlikely to occur after a suspension. Having air under the skin, even under muscles (laparoscopic surgeries usually involve inserting vasts amounts of air in the space being worked on (usually abdomen) and though alot of it seeps out, most of it ends up pushing upwards and dissipating in the shoulders and chest area), is simply not dangerous.
You would worry about an air embolism if for some god-forsaken reason you hit a large enough vessel or an artery. If that happened though, ‘getting the air out of the wound’ would be your last concern.
I feel fairly confident that the points behind removing the air involve decreased bruising with air removal as well as quicker healing and less scar tissue accumulation. Basically like any wound: if the edges are left apart to heal, it’ll take much longer for you body to fill in the gap and get the edges together. If you do it FOR your body (i.e. stitches in a cut), it cuts out a lot of time for healing and the total amount of scar tissue will be less.
Also, leaving the air in will inevitably increase your risk of infection and possible complications.
So apart from just ‘feeling good’, I’m pretty sure those are the main reasons and that air embolisms is definitely not one of them.
all that being said, i’ve never in person seen a suspension or a post-suspension massage, so I could be assessing everything entirely wrong. Sorry if that’s the case!
all that being said, i’ve never in person seen a suspension or a post-suspension massage, so I could be assessing everything entirely wrong. Sorry if that’s the case!
Courtney that is exactly why I said I DON’T think the issue is Air Embolisms….I knew what an air embolism was hence why I said that.
But yes one thing most certainly is potential infection and other complications…But its more “the other complications” part that I still can’t get my brain to recall…there’s something els but I simply forget.
and since you’ve never seen in person a suspension, the comments about decreased bruising with air removal aren’t true because depending on who’s doing the massages, you can bruise the skin that way. Also no matter what “less scar tissue accumulation” is simply not going to happen post-suspensions. Unless you use some sort of scar reduction product from the trauma of receiving the hooks and then suspending your weight off them.
you didn’t really assess it entirely wrong, you simply pointed out exactly WHY it wouldn’t be an air embolism 😉
Courtney that is exactly why I said I DON’T think the issue is Air Embolisms….I knew what an air embolism was hence why I said that.
But yes one thing most certainly is potential infection and other complications…But its more “the other complications” part that I still can’t get my brain to recall…there’s something els but I simply forget.
and since you’ve never seen in person a suspension, the comments about decreased bruising with air removal aren’t true because depending on who’s doing the massages, you can bruise the skin that way. Also no matter what “less scar tissue accumulation” is simply not going to happen post-suspensions. Unless you use some sort of scar reduction product from the trauma of receiving the hooks and then suspending your weight off them.
you didn’t really assess it entirely wrong, you simply pointed out exactly WHY it wouldn’t be an air embolism 😉
lol yeah thus my post-comment warning you about me being wrong. haha. The bruising thing confused me… I figured it might be that, but like you said, if you’re going to be suspended and massaged, you’re going to bleed almost certainly and so, yeah, bruising is definitely inevitable. Hmm. Maybe I should look into actually going to watch one, eh?
I really can’t think of what else massaging after a suspension might prevent – or cause purposefully.
Lemme know if you remember!
lol yeah thus my post-comment warning you about me being wrong. haha. The bruising thing confused me… I figured it might be that, but like you said, if you’re going to be suspended and massaged, you’re going to bleed almost certainly and so, yeah, bruising is definitely inevitable. Hmm. Maybe I should look into actually going to watch one, eh?
I really can’t think of what else massaging after a suspension might prevent – or cause purposefully.
Lemme know if you remember!
Why would leaving air in increase the potential risk of infection versus massaging it out would decrease it? Would not closing a wound with bandages fast decrease the risk and messing about with it for some time before bandaging it increase it?
Why would leaving air in increase the potential risk of infection versus massaging it out would decrease it? Would not closing a wound with bandages fast decrease the risk and messing about with it for some time before bandaging it increase it?
(unless obviously the air around you when you suspend is dirtier than a hobo’s underpants, but that’s another issue)
(unless obviously the air around you when you suspend is dirtier than a hobo’s underpants, but that’s another issue)
ew. but I like it.
ew. but I like it.
good times! yummy!
good times! yummy!
I’m sure nobody will read this far back. But I have to set the record straight. Courtney is correct. Subcutaneous emphysema is exactly what the suspension rice krispies are ‘clinically’ termed. I have gone up with a good massage after as well as not so good, and where they missed air, it felt like bruising; but it could be moved around so I think it was just the pressure that hurt, not necessarily actual bruises. And as Courtney said, the only way you could get air in your arteries is if you punctured them. And in that case, you’re gonna bleed to death before any air bubble asphyxiates you.
I’m sure nobody will read this far back. But I have to set the record straight. Courtney is correct. Subcutaneous emphysema is exactly what the suspension rice krispies are ‘clinically’ termed. I have gone up with a good massage after as well as not so good, and where they missed air, it felt like bruising; but it could be moved around so I think it was just the pressure that hurt, not necessarily actual bruises. And as Courtney said, the only way you could get air in your arteries is if you punctured them. And in that case, you’re gonna bleed to death before any air bubble asphyxiates you.