DangerEric may not eat steak, but now with the help of Noelle at Divine Machine in Buffalo, NY, he wears it permanently (“it’s a vegan irony tattoo”)…
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Eric, when I go out to a restaurant I try not making a big deal of it eaither, I simply know my shit and know what not to order and that’s about it, other than that I gladly eat without telling everyone that what’s on their plate is just sick, even though I may feel that way. To me it’s not about defining myself by what I eat, I just don’t like the idea that so many animals are killed each year and taken for granted. I’m all for animal rights actually, so it’s not just about being vegan for me. I geuss that’s where people get confused, some vegans do it for health some do it for animals, but a lot of times it goes shand in hand with other causes, so it’s definitely not just about food.
What you said to the omnivores is true though.
Eric, when I go out to a restaurant I try not making a big deal of it eaither, I simply know my shit and know what not to order and that’s about it, other than that I gladly eat without telling everyone that what’s on their plate is just sick, even though I may feel that way. To me it’s not about defining myself by what I eat, I just don’t like the idea that so many animals are killed each year and taken for granted. I’m all for animal rights actually, so it’s not just about being vegan for me. I geuss that’s where people get confused, some vegans do it for health some do it for animals, but a lot of times it goes shand in hand with other causes, so it’s definitely not just about food.
What you said to the omnivores is true though.
What makes animal life more important then plant life? Let’s hear you moralize this…
What makes animal life more important then plant life? Let’s hear you moralize this…
What makes animal life more important then plant life? Let’s hear you moralize this…
my argument isn’t stupid – meat is made to be eaten, and our teeth, stomachs and digestive tracts are made to digest it. i don’t think anyone should eat all meat all the time, but small amounts and infrequent large amounts is not going to make me unhealthy.
i honestly think the weird thing is adopting a label that implies a lot of stuff that doesn’t make sense to me.
humans are animals, animals eat animals and also plants, so then, humans should eat animals and also plants.
when we start talking morality we start getting beyond cows and chickens and have to start talking about where morality comes from. i’d love to know the stats on vegan belief systems because i presume the average vegan is either athiestic/agnostic or, if i want to stereotype, neopagan revivalists. the point is in these world views morality as black and white does not exist, which makes animal cruelty not actually bad, just gross and unpleasent.
honestly if there was some way to extract a healthy food staple from a cow that was entierly earth friendly and whatnot, but put the cow in one hour of excruciating pain before it eventually died, drained of essence, would this be immoral?
but then again, i can only speak for myself.
my argument isn’t stupid – meat is made to be eaten, and our teeth, stomachs and digestive tracts are made to digest it. i don’t think anyone should eat all meat all the time, but small amounts and infrequent large amounts is not going to make me unhealthy.
i honestly think the weird thing is adopting a label that implies a lot of stuff that doesn’t make sense to me.
humans are animals, animals eat animals and also plants, so then, humans should eat animals and also plants.
when we start talking morality we start getting beyond cows and chickens and have to start talking about where morality comes from. i’d love to know the stats on vegan belief systems because i presume the average vegan is either athiestic/agnostic or, if i want to stereotype, neopagan revivalists. the point is in these world views morality as black and white does not exist, which makes animal cruelty not actually bad, just gross and unpleasent.
honestly if there was some way to extract a healthy food staple from a cow that was entierly earth friendly and whatnot, but put the cow in one hour of excruciating pain before it eventually died, drained of essence, would this be immoral?
but then again, i can only speak for myself.
my argument isn’t stupid – meat is made to be eaten, and our teeth, stomachs and digestive tracts are made to digest it. i don’t think anyone should eat all meat all the time, but small amounts and infrequent large amounts is not going to make me unhealthy.
i honestly think the weird thing is adopting a label that implies a lot of stuff that doesn’t make sense to me.
humans are animals, animals eat animals and also plants, so then, humans should eat animals and also plants.
when we start talking morality we start getting beyond cows and chickens and have to start talking about where morality comes from. i’d love to know the stats on vegan belief systems because i presume the average vegan is either athiestic/agnostic or, if i want to stereotype, neopagan revivalists. the point is in these world views morality as black and white does not exist, which makes animal cruelty not actually bad, just gross and unpleasent.
honestly if there was some way to extract a healthy food staple from a cow that was entierly earth friendly and whatnot, but put the cow in one hour of excruciating pain before it eventually died, drained of essence, would this be immoral?
but then again, i can only speak for myself.
Heather Papps. I’m sorry but your argument is still stupid. If you’d look into what you said, you’d realise why.
Heather Papps. I’m sorry but your argument is still stupid. If you’d look into what you said, you’d realise why.
Heather Papps. I’m sorry but your argument is still stupid. If you’d look into what you said, you’d realise why.
You know Cere it’s about tha pain and suffering and not wether I like trees better than pigs or not, no one has proof that plants feel a thing, however it is VERY obvious that animals that have a nervous system do feel! If you have ever bonded with any animals for 5 minutes you prombably noticed they also have personalities and feelings all together… I have no choice but to eat plants, since a frugivores diet isn’t healthy and most people can’t sustain it for a length of time, however a vegan diet and lifestyle is. If I were to eat meat as wel I’d be doing a lot more harm not only to the enimals eaten, but to the plants too because it takes a hell of a lot more plants to raise the animals that will be eaten. I’m not going to bother argue, a vegan diet is better for the animals, better for health and a better for our planet, I don’t see why you are getting uptight about others doing something you can’t be bothered to do.
You know Cere it’s about tha pain and suffering and not wether I like trees better than pigs or not, no one has proof that plants feel a thing, however it is VERY obvious that animals that have a nervous system do feel! If you have ever bonded with any animals for 5 minutes you prombably noticed they also have personalities and feelings all together… I have no choice but to eat plants, since a frugivores diet isn’t healthy and most people can’t sustain it for a length of time, however a vegan diet and lifestyle is. If I were to eat meat as wel I’d be doing a lot more harm not only to the enimals eaten, but to the plants too because it takes a hell of a lot more plants to raise the animals that will be eaten. I’m not going to bother argue, a vegan diet is better for the animals, better for health and a better for our planet, I don’t see why you are getting uptight about others doing something you can’t be bothered to do.
You know Cere it’s about tha pain and suffering and not wether I like trees better than pigs or not, no one has proof that plants feel a thing, however it is VERY obvious that animals that have a nervous system do feel! If you have ever bonded with any animals for 5 minutes you prombably noticed they also have personalities and feelings all together… I have no choice but to eat plants, since a frugivores diet isn’t healthy and most people can’t sustain it for a length of time, however a vegan diet and lifestyle is. If I were to eat meat as wel I’d be doing a lot more harm not only to the enimals eaten, but to the plants too because it takes a hell of a lot more plants to raise the animals that will be eaten. I’m not going to bother argue, a vegan diet is better for the animals, better for health and a better for our planet, I don’t see why you are getting uptight about others doing something you can’t be bothered to do.
Omnivores do bond with animals. Some of us spend most of their earnings taking in and rehabbing stray animals, not to mention paying out of pocket for spay/neuters. Some of us spend a great deal of time doing our trap/neater/and release of feral cats, working as shelter volunteers, and fostering neonates.
I have taken elderly, special needs, and post surgical animals at my own expense, into my home, because no one else would.
MoonChild, your ethical stand isn’t above mine. It’s different but it isn’t superior.
Go on and live your life and eat what you wish. But do NOT tell us about animals and “doing something that others can’t be bothered to do”. I bother to do a lot.
End of my discussion.
Omnivores do bond with animals. Some of us spend most of their earnings taking in and rehabbing stray animals, not to mention paying out of pocket for spay/neuters. Some of us spend a great deal of time doing our trap/neater/and release of feral cats, working as shelter volunteers, and fostering neonates.
I have taken elderly, special needs, and post surgical animals at my own expense, into my home, because no one else would.
MoonChild, your ethical stand isn’t above mine. It’s different but it isn’t superior.
Go on and live your life and eat what you wish. But do NOT tell us about animals and “doing something that others can’t be bothered to do”. I bother to do a lot.
End of my discussion.
Omnivores do bond with animals. Some of us spend most of their earnings taking in and rehabbing stray animals, not to mention paying out of pocket for spay/neuters. Some of us spend a great deal of time doing our trap/neater/and release of feral cats, working as shelter volunteers, and fostering neonates.
I have taken elderly, special needs, and post surgical animals at my own expense, into my home, because no one else would.
MoonChild, your ethical stand isn’t above mine. It’s different but it isn’t superior.
Go on and live your life and eat what you wish. But do NOT tell us about animals and “doing something that others can’t be bothered to do”. I bother to do a lot.
End of my discussion.
Congrats you save a few and kill a whole lot more.. it just shows that you care about a couple of species and coldn’t care less about the others. How typical, cats and dogs above all.
Congrats you save a few and kill a whole lot more.. it just shows that you care about a couple of species and coldn’t care less about the others. How typical, cats and dogs above all.
Congrats you save a few and kill a whole lot more.. it just shows that you care about a couple of species and coldn’t care less about the others. How typical, cats and dogs above all.
I love how little I even need to post in here. Moonchild is doing more to make a mockery of veganism then I could if I put 100% effort into it.
Moonchild. I have pets. I love mine more then you love yours. Actually I want to come over, and cook your pets and eat them while you cry.
Your argument is based of what YOU project. That because you cant relate to a plant its suffering means nothing. Then you go on to make the claim that being frugivore would be better and that “most people can’t sustain it for a length of time” which is the same argument that you lambast when an omnivore uses it.
And I love how you make these ridiculous statements that are completely an opinion, yet you use them as fact.
I love how little I even need to post in here. Moonchild is doing more to make a mockery of veganism then I could if I put 100% effort into it.
Moonchild. I have pets. I love mine more then you love yours. Actually I want to come over, and cook your pets and eat them while you cry.
Your argument is based of what YOU project. That because you cant relate to a plant its suffering means nothing. Then you go on to make the claim that being frugivore would be better and that “most people can’t sustain it for a length of time” which is the same argument that you lambast when an omnivore uses it.
And I love how you make these ridiculous statements that are completely an opinion, yet you use them as fact.
I love how little I even need to post in here. Moonchild is doing more to make a mockery of veganism then I could if I put 100% effort into it.
Moonchild. I have pets. I love mine more then you love yours. Actually I want to come over, and cook your pets and eat them while you cry.
Your argument is based of what YOU project. That because you cant relate to a plant its suffering means nothing. Then you go on to make the claim that being frugivore would be better and that “most people can’t sustain it for a length of time” which is the same argument that you lambast when an omnivore uses it.
And I love how you make these ridiculous statements that are completely an opinion, yet you use them as fact.
here is the crazy thing moonchild, you ignored my whole argument which is this – animals can feel pain but are not sentient beings and we eat them because we are supposed to.
Life feeds on life feeds on life feeds on life.
All digestion is energy transfer – someone with such a stereotypically hippy name like yourself should know that. unless you’re a crowley fan which makes me wonder why you’ve not adapted his attitude of fuck it, eat it or piss on it.
anyways, the crux of the argument for vegetarianism is that eating meat is morally wrong, and that is why the argument will always fail.
eating meat is not morally wrong. consuming ANYTHING is amoral. it is merely a fact of nature.
the issue is how the meat is produced – no one dissagrees that wasteful and cruel factory farms are bad – protest them and only them.
peta and other groups waste time fighting for the animal rights that don’t exist because animals are incapable of understanding rights.
we foist morality onto the most primal things that are at their core beyond morality. instinct, the drive to survive and reproduce – these things are natural, and just as rape because one can’t control ones passions is wrong, so is raping the land or cruelly mistreating animals for food or profit in any form.
HOWEVER, using an animal that has been selectively bred over thousands of years for the purposes it has been bred for is no more immoral then using a dog trained to herd sheep to herd sheep.
modern cows are for meat and milk and leather. that is a fact. and facts aren’t stupid.
here is the crazy thing moonchild, you ignored my whole argument which is this – animals can feel pain but are not sentient beings and we eat them because we are supposed to.
Life feeds on life feeds on life feeds on life.
All digestion is energy transfer – someone with such a stereotypically hippy name like yourself should know that. unless you’re a crowley fan which makes me wonder why you’ve not adapted his attitude of fuck it, eat it or piss on it.
anyways, the crux of the argument for vegetarianism is that eating meat is morally wrong, and that is why the argument will always fail.
eating meat is not morally wrong. consuming ANYTHING is amoral. it is merely a fact of nature.
the issue is how the meat is produced – no one dissagrees that wasteful and cruel factory farms are bad – protest them and only them.
peta and other groups waste time fighting for the animal rights that don’t exist because animals are incapable of understanding rights.
we foist morality onto the most primal things that are at their core beyond morality. instinct, the drive to survive and reproduce – these things are natural, and just as rape because one can’t control ones passions is wrong, so is raping the land or cruelly mistreating animals for food or profit in any form.
HOWEVER, using an animal that has been selectively bred over thousands of years for the purposes it has been bred for is no more immoral then using a dog trained to herd sheep to herd sheep.
modern cows are for meat and milk and leather. that is a fact. and facts aren’t stupid.
here is the crazy thing moonchild, you ignored my whole argument which is this – animals can feel pain but are not sentient beings and we eat them because we are supposed to.
Life feeds on life feeds on life feeds on life.
All digestion is energy transfer – someone with such a stereotypically hippy name like yourself should know that. unless you’re a crowley fan which makes me wonder why you’ve not adapted his attitude of fuck it, eat it or piss on it.
anyways, the crux of the argument for vegetarianism is that eating meat is morally wrong, and that is why the argument will always fail.
eating meat is not morally wrong. consuming ANYTHING is amoral. it is merely a fact of nature.
the issue is how the meat is produced – no one dissagrees that wasteful and cruel factory farms are bad – protest them and only them.
peta and other groups waste time fighting for the animal rights that don’t exist because animals are incapable of understanding rights.
we foist morality onto the most primal things that are at their core beyond morality. instinct, the drive to survive and reproduce – these things are natural, and just as rape because one can’t control ones passions is wrong, so is raping the land or cruelly mistreating animals for food or profit in any form.
HOWEVER, using an animal that has been selectively bred over thousands of years for the purposes it has been bred for is no more immoral then using a dog trained to herd sheep to herd sheep.
modern cows are for meat and milk and leather. that is a fact. and facts aren’t stupid.
Cere, you love your pets so much yet other animals? 🙂 Funny, cause that’s one of the reason I actually turned vegan, culdn’t stand the idea that they could be on someone’s plate.
Personally I dont’t give a shit a bout what you think of me, and I don’t think you are being such a smart omnivore either… very typical one at that too.
You know maybe I can’t relate to a plant suffering however you can’t relate to an animal suffering even if the animals is screaming right infront of you and you justify your actions by belittleing mine.
Cere, you love your pets so much yet other animals? 🙂 Funny, cause that’s one of the reason I actually turned vegan, culdn’t stand the idea that they could be on someone’s plate.
Personally I dont’t give a shit a bout what you think of me, and I don’t think you are being such a smart omnivore either… very typical one at that too.
You know maybe I can’t relate to a plant suffering however you can’t relate to an animal suffering even if the animals is screaming right infront of you and you justify your actions by belittleing mine.
Cere, you love your pets so much yet other animals? 🙂 Funny, cause that’s one of the reason I actually turned vegan, culdn’t stand the idea that they could be on someone’s plate.
Personally I dont’t give a shit a bout what you think of me, and I don’t think you are being such a smart omnivore either… very typical one at that too.
You know maybe I can’t relate to a plant suffering however you can’t relate to an animal suffering even if the animals is screaming right infront of you and you justify your actions by belittleing mine.
If I was hungry, Id eat my dog. Doesnt mean I dont love her.
ANd im sorry, but what animals do you think are screaming in front of me?
Ok, you caught me. I have a zoo in my garage that I use for torture fun when Im bored. Im really honeslty beginning to think that you are really an Omnivore and are making these posts just to make vegans look stupid and idiotic.
If thats the case, then Kudos to you kiddo.
If I was hungry, Id eat my dog. Doesnt mean I dont love her.
ANd im sorry, but what animals do you think are screaming in front of me?
Ok, you caught me. I have a zoo in my garage that I use for torture fun when Im bored. Im really honeslty beginning to think that you are really an Omnivore and are making these posts just to make vegans look stupid and idiotic.
If thats the case, then Kudos to you kiddo.
If I was hungry, Id eat my dog. Doesnt mean I dont love her.
ANd im sorry, but what animals do you think are screaming in front of me?
Ok, you caught me. I have a zoo in my garage that I use for torture fun when Im bored. Im really honeslty beginning to think that you are really an Omnivore and are making these posts just to make vegans look stupid and idiotic.
If thats the case, then Kudos to you kiddo.
Heather Papps,
You obviously have no idea what animals are like at all, I believe you should go learn a thing or two from them. I’m obviously for AR and you obviously aren’t no point in arguing any further. Animals arent ours wether you like it or not.
Maybe it is energy transfer, how about I eat you? I think you’ll make a lovely pile of shit. Nothing wrong with that then according to your morals.
So you’re saing that disabled people have no right either just because they can’t comprehend it?
Some facts are very stupid indeed and can be I find it very sad that you look at a cow and think leather meat and milk…
Heather Papps,
You obviously have no idea what animals are like at all, I believe you should go learn a thing or two from them. I’m obviously for AR and you obviously aren’t no point in arguing any further. Animals arent ours wether you like it or not.
Maybe it is energy transfer, how about I eat you? I think you’ll make a lovely pile of shit. Nothing wrong with that then according to your morals.
So you’re saing that disabled people have no right either just because they can’t comprehend it?
Some facts are very stupid indeed and can be I find it very sad that you look at a cow and think leather meat and milk…
Heather Papps,
You obviously have no idea what animals are like at all, I believe you should go learn a thing or two from them. I’m obviously for AR and you obviously aren’t no point in arguing any further. Animals arent ours wether you like it or not.
Maybe it is energy transfer, how about I eat you? I think you’ll make a lovely pile of shit. Nothing wrong with that then according to your morals.
So you’re saing that disabled people have no right either just because they can’t comprehend it?
Some facts are very stupid indeed and can be I find it very sad that you look at a cow and think leather meat and milk…
Cere, you must really love your dog then. I wonder if you’d eat your family or freind too if you got real hungry. You do realize there is other food out there than meat, right?
Cere, you must really love your dog then. I wonder if you’d eat your family or freind too if you got real hungry. You do realize there is other food out there than meat, right?
Cere, you must really love your dog then. I wonder if you’d eat your family or freind too if you got real hungry. You do realize there is other food out there than meat, right?
Actually yes I would.
And yeh, I realize that there is other food then meat. I also understand that meat is an ESSENTIAL part of a balanced meal…
Actually yes I would.
And yeh, I realize that there is other food then meat. I also understand that meat is an ESSENTIAL part of a balanced meal…
Actually yes I would.
And yeh, I realize that there is other food then meat. I also understand that meat is an ESSENTIAL part of a balanced meal…
Yea right.
Yea right.
Yea right.
Wow, that was a constructive last answer… I will follow with…
Whatever.
Wow, that was a constructive last answer… I will follow with…
Whatever.
Wow, that was a constructive last answer… I will follow with…
Whatever.
I don’t think I had much to add to such ignorance, really. I thought it has been established by now that Vegans can definitely have a balanced diet. Wether or not people care to give up meat is one thing, but claiming that you can’t have a balanced meal without meat is just ludicrous.
I don’t think I had much to add to such ignorance, really. I thought it has been established by now that Vegans can definitely have a balanced diet. Wether or not people care to give up meat is one thing, but claiming that you can’t have a balanced meal without meat is just ludicrous.
I don’t think I had much to add to such ignorance, really. I thought it has been established by now that Vegans can definitely have a balanced diet. Wether or not people care to give up meat is one thing, but claiming that you can’t have a balanced meal without meat is just ludicrous.