So in light of Obama’s “Race Speech”, I was thinking about how differently different generations have experienced race in America and approach the terminology of race in very different ways. There are of course still many older Americans who lived through segregated times and experienced the remnants of slavery culture, and most adults have lived through at least heavy inequality and racial stress overlapping the class war, but it seems like Courtney from South Florida and her best friend (“millennials“) have had a different experience again, where co-opting once segregated terms is completely non-offensive to them (whether or not it’s offensive to others in a variety of demographic sectors)… It will be interesting where terms of racial inequality end up in another fifty years.
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230 responses to “A Couple of Niggas?”
mcbutt – They didn’t get “Oranges” tattooed on their lips. The word they chose has a significant and particular meaning. So by your logic, the institution and practice of racism is not something to get worked up about.
mcbutt – They didn’t get “Oranges” tattooed on their lips. The word they chose has a significant and particular meaning. So by your logic, the institution and practice of racism is not something to get worked up about.
mcbutt: so racism isn’t an issue?
mcbutt: so racism isn’t an issue?
“okay this is ridiculous… the term nigga or nigger should not be used by anyone, as it is racist.”
I use both in different contexts. I also use the word cunt a lot too if that makes it any better. The irony of political correctness is that I can say nigger to my black friends and they don’t get offended, but PC white kids (or crackas as I often call them) go into shock.
I once got into an argument with an “anarchist” over the word nigger. He said I shouldn’t use it in anger (which is precisely WHEN I use it. If someone pisses me off enough for me to use a ‘hate’ word, then I’m going to use the one that causes the most psychological damage) because it’s offensive.
Yeah. An anarchist ‘crusty-punk’ who thinks that society should dictate what words we can and can’t use? I think he’s missing the point of his own dogma.
That said- those girls probably didn’t think it out that well and will end up regretting it.
Trevor said: “if i got a tattoo that said “where the white women at?” would it really be that funny?”
Yes it would be funny. I dare you.
“okay this is ridiculous… the term nigga or nigger should not be used by anyone, as it is racist.”
I use both in different contexts. I also use the word cunt a lot too if that makes it any better. The irony of political correctness is that I can say nigger to my black friends and they don’t get offended, but PC white kids (or crackas as I often call them) go into shock.
I once got into an argument with an “anarchist” over the word nigger. He said I shouldn’t use it in anger (which is precisely WHEN I use it. If someone pisses me off enough for me to use a ‘hate’ word, then I’m going to use the one that causes the most psychological damage) because it’s offensive.
Yeah. An anarchist ‘crusty-punk’ who thinks that society should dictate what words we can and can’t use? I think he’s missing the point of his own dogma.
That said- those girls probably didn’t think it out that well and will end up regretting it.
Trevor said: “if i got a tattoo that said “where the white women at?” would it really be that funny?”
Yes it would be funny. I dare you.
CorpseEsproc- seriously, you’re asking why T got offended? that term has been used (by whites) for centuries to basically tell blacks that they’re shit, and you’re asking why someone would get offended when two white girls tattoo that on their bodies. yes, it has been appropriated by other ethnicities, but that does nothing to the history and hurt that came with the word.
hell, i can’t lie, i got offended and i’ve had whites friends call each other nigga before.
CorpseEsproc- seriously, you’re asking why T got offended? that term has been used (by whites) for centuries to basically tell blacks that they’re shit, and you’re asking why someone would get offended when two white girls tattoo that on their bodies. yes, it has been appropriated by other ethnicities, but that does nothing to the history and hurt that came with the word.
hell, i can’t lie, i got offended and i’ve had whites friends call each other nigga before.
I’m not sure how anyone could claim that there aren’t still remnants of slavery, either… I mean I don’t want to get into a fight or anything. but I just want to say I very strongly disagree with that implication (as I do realize it wasn’t straight-out said).
and I’ve never understood the argument that words shouldn’t matter, or whatever. language is such a huuuuuuuge part of culture. if words don’t matter, what does?
and I think one could pretty easily argue that racism exists in, if not is a major part of, most of the “more important” problems in the world… it’s all intertwined.
I’m not sure how anyone could claim that there aren’t still remnants of slavery, either… I mean I don’t want to get into a fight or anything. but I just want to say I very strongly disagree with that implication (as I do realize it wasn’t straight-out said).
and I’ve never understood the argument that words shouldn’t matter, or whatever. language is such a huuuuuuuge part of culture. if words don’t matter, what does?
and I think one could pretty easily argue that racism exists in, if not is a major part of, most of the “more important” problems in the world… it’s all intertwined.
and to 31, and anyone else who said anything similar:
racism may or may not go both ways, but the history sure as hell doesn’t, and the present state of privilege vs oppression doesn’t. let me guess — you don’t like affirmative action? for a trivial but poignant example — when was the last time you wore a “flesh” colored bandaid? and whose flesh did it look like?
http://seamonkey.ed.asu.edu/~mcisaac/emc598ge/Unpacking.html <– a good article on white privilege.
and to 31, and anyone else who said anything similar:
racism may or may not go both ways, but the history sure as hell doesn’t, and the present state of privilege vs oppression doesn’t. let me guess — you don’t like affirmative action? for a trivial but poignant example — when was the last time you wore a “flesh” colored bandaid? and whose flesh did it look like?
http://seamonkey.ed.asu.edu/~mcisaac/emc598ge/Unpacking.html <– a good article on white privilege.
i’m with shawnporter on this one i’ve got black friends and i’m white i use both contexts in a passive and aggressive way but at the end of the day it’s only a word.
also i find there is a diffrence between niggers and black people black people work hard just like ever one else and they earn respect and postition jsut like everyone less (i like these people, there not offenend they understand that this word no longer applys to them) niggers are the ones who think there all rappers and that everyone owes them somthing for what there ancestors went through (these are the ones i don’t like because everything bad said to them is racist)
i’m with shawnporter on this one i’ve got black friends and i’m white i use both contexts in a passive and aggressive way but at the end of the day it’s only a word.
also i find there is a diffrence between niggers and black people black people work hard just like ever one else and they earn respect and postition jsut like everyone less (i like these people, there not offenend they understand that this word no longer applys to them) niggers are the ones who think there all rappers and that everyone owes them somthing for what there ancestors went through (these are the ones i don’t like because everything bad said to them is racist)
Assholes, both of them.
Assholes, both of them.
I’d love to know who the parents of these kids are. YES kids. They look all of 16 years old if even that. I’d also like to see them in 20 years to know how much they regret these ignorant tattoos.
#10- just because I am white does not mean that I cannot or should not be offended by this. I would think that people of any race would find these offensive.
I’d love to know who the parents of these kids are. YES kids. They look all of 16 years old if even that. I’d also like to see them in 20 years to know how much they regret these ignorant tattoos.
#10- just because I am white does not mean that I cannot or should not be offended by this. I would think that people of any race would find these offensive.
I’d love to know who the parents of these kids are. YES kids. They look all of 16 years old if even that. I’d also like to see them in 20 years to know how much they regret these ignorant tattoos.
#10- just because I am white does not mean that I cannot or should not be offended by this. I would think that people of any race would find these offensive.
I’d love to know who the parents of these kids are. YES kids. They look all of 16 years old if even that. I’d also like to see them in 20 years to know how much they regret these ignorant tattoos.
#10- just because I am white does not mean that I cannot or should not be offended by this. I would think that people of any race would find these offensive.
dave, are you for real? cause holy shit. I mean I’m pretty sure chris rock made the exact same assertion — only his was a joke. and very controversial even for him to say it.
dave, are you for real? cause holy shit. I mean I’m pretty sure chris rock made the exact same assertion — only his was a joke. and very controversial even for him to say it.
baphomedge: how ’bout the idea that you just offended me as a “xhardcorex kid” by saying that all of us are ignorant? you can’t judge a scene by the behavior of a few, just like you can’t say that all blacks are gangster thugs. also, why would you think that those chicks are part of the hardcore scene? you should think before you type, darlin.
nowhere did i ever say that all hardcore kids are ignorant. I was a hardcore kid, still technically am, although i don’t act like the 16 year old hardcore kids do anymore. And again, sure maybe they’re not part of the scene, but they sure look like the normal 16-17 year old girls who go to hardcore shows in my area.
and if you really got offended by my statement, then I think you’re precisly the reason why most hardcore sucks now. being offended because i made a true statement about the decline in the hardcore scene, by using words like that, is pretty pathetic.
as for whoever said that maybe they wanted to ‘take the words back;.. how would they be able to take back a word like that? doesn’t make sense.
also, i say cunt like its going out of business, whatever, but really, saying faggot and nigga/er, still not cool.
baphomedge: how ’bout the idea that you just offended me as a “xhardcorex kid” by saying that all of us are ignorant? you can’t judge a scene by the behavior of a few, just like you can’t say that all blacks are gangster thugs. also, why would you think that those chicks are part of the hardcore scene? you should think before you type, darlin.
nowhere did i ever say that all hardcore kids are ignorant. I was a hardcore kid, still technically am, although i don’t act like the 16 year old hardcore kids do anymore. And again, sure maybe they’re not part of the scene, but they sure look like the normal 16-17 year old girls who go to hardcore shows in my area.
and if you really got offended by my statement, then I think you’re precisly the reason why most hardcore sucks now. being offended because i made a true statement about the decline in the hardcore scene, by using words like that, is pretty pathetic.
as for whoever said that maybe they wanted to ‘take the words back;.. how would they be able to take back a word like that? doesn’t make sense.
also, i say cunt like its going out of business, whatever, but really, saying faggot and nigga/er, still not cool.
Saltine-ass motherfuckers.
Saltine-ass motherfuckers.
… I think its funny.
… I think its funny.
pretty dumb, not funny…
what does it mean to be offended anyway, like those girls peronally wronged anyone by getting stupid tattoos? it takes at least a few adjectives to offend me.
i think people just sound stupid using the word ‘nigga’ if you wanna say some racist shit go ahead. every ‘race’ is guilty of some kinda bullshit. and if you say the wrong shit to the wrong person, good luck.
an inner lip tattoo is not really something you can regret… it’s more something you forget about.
and ps everybody’s scene is lame. except mine.
pretty dumb, not funny…
what does it mean to be offended anyway, like those girls peronally wronged anyone by getting stupid tattoos? it takes at least a few adjectives to offend me.
i think people just sound stupid using the word ‘nigga’ if you wanna say some racist shit go ahead. every ‘race’ is guilty of some kinda bullshit. and if you say the wrong shit to the wrong person, good luck.
an inner lip tattoo is not really something you can regret… it’s more something you forget about.
and ps everybody’s scene is lame. except mine.
My black friends call each other “nigga” and they call me “nigga” too…I’m a white German Jew so I don’t know where that puts me in the scheme of things, but we’re all friends and always there for each other. I don’t call them nigga in return simply because my “friendy” word is “bitch”.
Inner lip tattoos seem fairly useless in general (to me) but each to his own.
My black friends call each other “nigga” and they call me “nigga” too…I’m a white German Jew so I don’t know where that puts me in the scheme of things, but we’re all friends and always there for each other. I don’t call them nigga in return simply because my “friendy” word is “bitch”.
Inner lip tattoos seem fairly useless in general (to me) but each to his own.
Wow, those are tacky as fuck. Wonder how long it will take before they sincerely regret their ignorance.. or if they ever do.
Meanwhile, we can lol at how stupid they look in that photo. 🙂
Wow, those are tacky as fuck. Wonder how long it will take before they sincerely regret their ignorance.. or if they ever do.
Meanwhile, we can lol at how stupid they look in that photo. 🙂
white giiiiiiirls. i dont see why everyone is surprised, im just shocked they werent throwing fake gang signs in the picture.
white giiiiiiirls. i dont see why everyone is surprised, im just shocked they werent throwing fake gang signs in the picture.
dave = boyd rice?
dave = boyd rice?
my girlfriend would kick their asses…she is black and hates when people use “nigga” at all…and I’m white and I hate it just as much. I understand it popular in slang but there is too much negativity/history behind it for me to ever use it….as with my girlfriend. oh, and people say cracka and i don’t think ist the same…there isn’t history behind it….it didn’t label people for generations or oppress or cause people to not get jobs or go to a good school.
my girlfriend would kick their asses…she is black and hates when people use “nigga” at all…and I’m white and I hate it just as much. I understand it popular in slang but there is too much negativity/history behind it for me to ever use it….as with my girlfriend. oh, and people say cracka and i don’t think ist the same…there isn’t history behind it….it didn’t label people for generations or oppress or cause people to not get jobs or go to a good school.
honestly giles
do those come off your head?
or do you write them down first?
cos damn you write soo much
honestly giles
do those come off your head?
or do you write them down first?
cos damn you write soo much
Perhpas it’s an australian thing, where racism isn’t as impacted into the culture, but the second thought I had was along the lines of “maybe they want a nigge there?” as in it’s two white chicks that like black cock. If it isn’t, I can still pretend.
Perhpas it’s an australian thing, where racism isn’t as impacted into the culture, but the second thought I had was along the lines of “maybe they want a nigge there?” as in it’s two white chicks that like black cock. If it isn’t, I can still pretend.
fucking stupid. enough said.
fucking stupid. enough said.
okay look i am a so called nigga and reason couse i am blaack, you bothe have no right haveing that shit on you and watch, you know what go down to brockton and show some people and see what happens the guys wont touch you but they will send there sisters and cousins after your asses, if i were you i would chasnge that shit couse it aint cute nore is it funny.
okay look i am a so called nigga and reason couse i am blaack, you bothe have no right haveing that shit on you and watch, you know what go down to brockton and show some people and see what happens the guys wont touch you but they will send there sisters and cousins after your asses, if i were you i would chasnge that shit couse it aint cute nore is it funny.
This is unbelievable. I put as much blame on the girls for being so SOCIALLY, AND POLITICALLY incorrect, and DISGUSTING as I do the artist who offered his or her services to them.
It’s disgusting to think that we live in a nation that gets a kick out of something as permanent (or in this case, semi-permanent) as to tattoo a racial slur onto their body.
No matter what your race or age is, this is simply inappropriate and absolutely despicable. HELL, I’d much rather have to see the leg tattoo displaying the ”Tijuana donkey show” daily than to see a couple of white girls with this on their hidden inner lip.
Disgusting.
This is unbelievable. I put as much blame on the girls for being so SOCIALLY, AND POLITICALLY incorrect, and DISGUSTING as I do the artist who offered his or her services to them.
It’s disgusting to think that we live in a nation that gets a kick out of something as permanent (or in this case, semi-permanent) as to tattoo a racial slur onto their body.
No matter what your race or age is, this is simply inappropriate and absolutely despicable. HELL, I’d much rather have to see the leg tattoo displaying the ”Tijuana donkey show” daily than to see a couple of white girls with this on their hidden inner lip.
Disgusting.