I’m hoping it’s just his last name.
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176 responses to “In the Navy”
#47, It could make me a skeet-shooting Englishwoman just as well.
But I do get your point about the draft and the difference between voluntary and involuntary military service. As well as the cost (and punishment) for killing in war versus comitting a civilian crime.
I certainly wouldn’t fight some politician’s war. But I would use deadly force to protect myself. If it was them or me, in my home, I would make that choice if there were absolutely no other alternative.
That’s survival and there’s nothing nationalistic or political about it.
And yeah, the tattoo is kinda crappy-looking.
#47, It could make me a skeet-shooting Englishwoman just as well.
But I do get your point about the draft and the difference between voluntary and involuntary military service. As well as the cost (and punishment) for killing in war versus comitting a civilian crime.
I certainly wouldn’t fight some politician’s war. But I would use deadly force to protect myself. If it was them or me, in my home, I would make that choice if there were absolutely no other alternative.
That’s survival and there’s nothing nationalistic or political about it.
And yeah, the tattoo is kinda crappy-looking.
>>Falling prey to the belief that all people in the military are “dumb fucks” is like falling prey to the belief that all academics are “arrogant self-righteous fucks”.
How many academics have deliberately murdered innocents over the last few hundred years.
>>Falling prey to the belief that all people in the military are “dumb fucks” is like falling prey to the belief that all academics are “arrogant self-righteous fucks”.
How many academics have deliberately murdered innocents over the last few hundred years.
Well… that tattoo is unfortunate
Glies – How many thousands (millions?) have been killed from some sort of nuclear reaction. Who do you think engineered the atomic bomb? If I had to make a guess I would think it wasn’t a bunch of numbnuts scratching their heads and suddenly came up with the idea of nuclear fission. These bombs weren’t created for any innocent purpose, they were created with the intent to destroy. These scientists or academics were just doing their jobs, just like the men in the military are doing. Now, I’m not saying this makes any of this ‘right’ but come on you can’t honestly sit here and say that people in academia are too intelligent to kill
Well… that tattoo is unfortunate
Glies – How many thousands (millions?) have been killed from some sort of nuclear reaction. Who do you think engineered the atomic bomb? If I had to make a guess I would think it wasn’t a bunch of numbnuts scratching their heads and suddenly came up with the idea of nuclear fission. These bombs weren’t created for any innocent purpose, they were created with the intent to destroy. These scientists or academics were just doing their jobs, just like the men in the military are doing. Now, I’m not saying this makes any of this ‘right’ but come on you can’t honestly sit here and say that people in academia are too intelligent to kill
Just because there isn’t a proper draft in effect doesn’t mean that everyone in the military now wants to be there. Sure, they signed up. But many, like myself, signed up before Bush and his regime entered power and decided to declare war. I joined back when I thought I’d be doing a service to my country and defending it from “evil wrongdoers.” Sure, I was a little naive. But now I’m just riding out the time until my commitment is up and I can be released from the military.
Just because there isn’t a proper draft in effect doesn’t mean that everyone in the military now wants to be there. Sure, they signed up. But many, like myself, signed up before Bush and his regime entered power and decided to declare war. I joined back when I thought I’d be doing a service to my country and defending it from “evil wrongdoers.” Sure, I was a little naive. But now I’m just riding out the time until my commitment is up and I can be released from the military.
there’s a lot of hate and intolerance in this community. well, in all but I’m surprised that it’s so transparent here.
there’s a lot of hate and intolerance in this community. well, in all but I’m surprised that it’s so transparent here.
I don’t think he has his finger on the trigger. Due to the crop on the photo it is not clear though.
Ironic that some people here want to immediately pass negative comment on this image.
I don’t think he has his finger on the trigger. Due to the crop on the photo it is not clear though.
Ironic that some people here want to immediately pass negative comment on this image.
it’s interesting to see how the reactions towards pictures like this changend withing the last, approximately, half-year. I remember likewise shots some time ago that had mainly positive reactions. I appreciate that change. but I wont’ judge this guy and his reasons, because I know from personal experience that the need for money can get you to do almost every job, as long as it’s paid well.
it’s interesting to see how the reactions towards pictures like this changend withing the last, approximately, half-year. I remember likewise shots some time ago that had mainly positive reactions. I appreciate that change. but I wont’ judge this guy and his reasons, because I know from personal experience that the need for money can get you to do almost every job, as long as it’s paid well.
>How many academics have deliberately murdered innocents over the last few hundred years.
I’d suggest that it’s academics that make war possible and get us into it.
>How many academics have deliberately murdered innocents over the last few hundred years.
I’d suggest that it’s academics that make war possible and get us into it.
Shannon: I’d say you could do war w/o academics.
in a pretty old-fashioned style using clubs, maybe spears, and bows, things which were invented definitely befoe anything was there which you could tell scheince.
our “neat” fire gauns are enginerred, be scientists, ingenieurs and cunning mechanics.
Our bombs are, the planes, the ships are, the rockets too.
Some science is abused for war, but there is a broead field of war-science, and academics inside – making the war more and more efficient….. or cruel.
Bucket: My tolerance ends, where other peoplle are involved. usually this isn.t the case with bodymods, but in a right kind of use, it is. Army, fire guns, and their use involves other people, and showind “haha, I am strong a killer, a Rambo” involves other people, that is that little private as an WWII was.
Shannon: I’d say you could do war w/o academics.
in a pretty old-fashioned style using clubs, maybe spears, and bows, things which were invented definitely befoe anything was there which you could tell scheince.
our “neat” fire gauns are enginerred, be scientists, ingenieurs and cunning mechanics.
Our bombs are, the planes, the ships are, the rockets too.
Some science is abused for war, but there is a broead field of war-science, and academics inside – making the war more and more efficient….. or cruel.
Bucket: My tolerance ends, where other peoplle are involved. usually this isn.t the case with bodymods, but in a right kind of use, it is. Army, fire guns, and their use involves other people, and showind “haha, I am strong a killer, a Rambo” involves other people, that is that little private as an WWII was.
oh so this is a blog about the psyche of war?
woops must’ve taken a wrong turn at the
busted up nipple…
oh so this is a blog about the psyche of war?
woops must’ve taken a wrong turn at the
busted up nipple…
I’d like to say I’m suprised at the uproar against a military themed photo, but the longer I hang out on BME, the more I come to realize that it’s readers tend to fall into the “against the system, any system, because it’s ‘the system’” catagory than the truely open minded one. And it’s sad.
Educate yourself, THEN pick a side.
Fight about that now.
(And, to continue to defend the photo, which I’m neither for or against; the military has rules against tattoos below the elbow. For him to have this, he would have had to a) get the okay from his commanding officer (which I highly doubt, givin the context) b) had it before he joined c) went behind his commanding officer’s back to get it (which has some rough penalties, if my brother-in-law,who is Navy Military Police, is correct.)
I’d like to say I’m suprised at the uproar against a military themed photo, but the longer I hang out on BME, the more I come to realize that it’s readers tend to fall into the “against the system, any system, because it’s ‘the system’” catagory than the truely open minded one. And it’s sad.
Educate yourself, THEN pick a side.
Fight about that now.
(And, to continue to defend the photo, which I’m neither for or against; the military has rules against tattoos below the elbow. For him to have this, he would have had to a) get the okay from his commanding officer (which I highly doubt, givin the context) b) had it before he joined c) went behind his commanding officer’s back to get it (which has some rough penalties, if my brother-in-law,who is Navy Military Police, is correct.)
The gross intolerance demonstrated by a group that preaches tolerance reminds me exactly of internet christian forums. Preach love and then vehemently and rudely argue about every minutia under the sun.
Love the tat and the gun; and the fact that people are defending others’ right to mouth off. I have a DPMS just like your weapon in the gun safe 😉
The gross intolerance demonstrated by a group that preaches tolerance reminds me exactly of internet christian forums. Preach love and then vehemently and rudely argue about every minutia under the sun.
Love the tat and the gun; and the fact that people are defending others’ right to mouth off. I have a DPMS just like your weapon in the gun safe 😉
Guns and Tattoos? i don’t care who ya are…that’s a GOOD TIME right there man…
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Guns and Tattoos? i don’t care who ya are…that’s a GOOD TIME right there man…
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i tend to lose tolerance for people that kill other people because they are told to do so…infact i have no tolerance for people that blindly follow orders but there you go,its still a shit tattoo by the way
i tend to lose tolerance for people that kill other people because they are told to do so…infact i have no tolerance for people that blindly follow orders but there you go,its still a shit tattoo by the way
nyne – Have you ever met someone in the military? Had a conversation with them? You’d find that 99.9% of people who joined the military did so for a good reason, even if their reason means nothing to you it means a lot to them.
And as for shoddy tattoos – you’ll see them a on people in the military. Shitty artists take advantage of the fact that a lot of the kids in the military weren’t really exposed to tattoos before they joined and only know that they want a tattoo. Outside the gates of most military bases are some of the worst tattoo shops that you’ll find. The patrons, especially of shops near training bases, don’t know the area well, get tattooed and then are sent on to their next base before they can tell anyone that the place sucks.
This guy is proud (I guess) of a job that he probably knew was going to get him flamed on this site. I don’t know what job he could be doing for the Navy but I’m sure it’s one I wouldn’t want to do. I’m happy that he’s there to do a job I couldn’t.
nyne – Have you ever met someone in the military? Had a conversation with them? You’d find that 99.9% of people who joined the military did so for a good reason, even if their reason means nothing to you it means a lot to them.
And as for shoddy tattoos – you’ll see them a on people in the military. Shitty artists take advantage of the fact that a lot of the kids in the military weren’t really exposed to tattoos before they joined and only know that they want a tattoo. Outside the gates of most military bases are some of the worst tattoo shops that you’ll find. The patrons, especially of shops near training bases, don’t know the area well, get tattooed and then are sent on to their next base before they can tell anyone that the place sucks.
This guy is proud (I guess) of a job that he probably knew was going to get him flamed on this site. I don’t know what job he could be doing for the Navy but I’m sure it’s one I wouldn’t want to do. I’m happy that he’s there to do a job I couldn’t.
Casey:
I would not flame somebody because he is simply in the army. Indeed that is a job, and indeed it is a (sadly) necesarry one. I know (because i was there for 8 month, likewise all Austrian young man) the army, I know the job (thanks, never again, I hope). I also know, that there are many really terrible idiots in the permanent staff of the army (overaverage count) – but also some quite wise man. There is no reason to do prejustice only because hi is a member of the military forces. Indeed there are reasons on the pic: the way he presents himself (and his job).
I can only repeat: Playing and silly posing “ha how dangerous I are” with your gun (which at least is much better then that thing here) in the Austrian army, was usually worth an extra weekend duty in the casern (and some of my cmaerades who were of the silly kind got it har-har).
There are too many people in the army where ypu feel “oh my god, these should be responsible for our defense”?! It is a very tough job, but also one which required extreme responsible people, but DEFENITELY neither heroes (dead) nor Rambo’s (murderers), nor people who do not esteeming the worth of live.
I was not happy with the Austrian duty to go to military service. On the other hand, it is better to take some responsability in the worst case, that to let Rambo’s and heroes and people lacking appreciation of live, doing their “funny” game.
Casey:
I would not flame somebody because he is simply in the army. Indeed that is a job, and indeed it is a (sadly) necesarry one. I know (because i was there for 8 month, likewise all Austrian young man) the army, I know the job (thanks, never again, I hope). I also know, that there are many really terrible idiots in the permanent staff of the army (overaverage count) – but also some quite wise man. There is no reason to do prejustice only because hi is a member of the military forces. Indeed there are reasons on the pic: the way he presents himself (and his job).
I can only repeat: Playing and silly posing “ha how dangerous I are” with your gun (which at least is much better then that thing here) in the Austrian army, was usually worth an extra weekend duty in the casern (and some of my cmaerades who were of the silly kind got it har-har).
There are too many people in the army where ypu feel “oh my god, these should be responsible for our defense”?! It is a very tough job, but also one which required extreme responsible people, but DEFENITELY neither heroes (dead) nor Rambo’s (murderers), nor people who do not esteeming the worth of live.
I was not happy with the Austrian duty to go to military service. On the other hand, it is better to take some responsability in the worst case, that to let Rambo’s and heroes and people lacking appreciation of live, doing their “funny” game.
>>I’d suggest that it’s academics that make war possible and get us into it.
Academics like Bush perhaps 😉
>>I’d suggest that it’s academics that make war possible and get us into it.
Academics like Bush perhaps 😉
Casey: yes, I`ve met people who were in the military, talked to them, listened to their stories. In my line of work those people are more often old vets with intense posttraumatic stress disorder from their experiences. Sure, they`re still alive physically, but the war still stole any sembelence of a normal life from them a long time ago, and there`s no treating that at this point.
I`m not bagging on the tattoo for it`s quality: like I said, I work in a jail, and I see tattoos every day that make that one look top notch. I`m critical of the tattoo that announces his lust for killing. Regardless of his reasons for being in that position, you can not tell me that killing people you`ve never met is admirable, on a basic humanistic level.
Just, at the end of the day, as long as they CHOOSE to be there, I can`t support them. There is something inheretly wrong with a government that can give someone a life sentence for killing one, yet hands out medals for killing hundreds.
I support life.
Casey: yes, I`ve met people who were in the military, talked to them, listened to their stories. In my line of work those people are more often old vets with intense posttraumatic stress disorder from their experiences. Sure, they`re still alive physically, but the war still stole any sembelence of a normal life from them a long time ago, and there`s no treating that at this point.
I`m not bagging on the tattoo for it`s quality: like I said, I work in a jail, and I see tattoos every day that make that one look top notch. I`m critical of the tattoo that announces his lust for killing. Regardless of his reasons for being in that position, you can not tell me that killing people you`ve never met is admirable, on a basic humanistic level.
Just, at the end of the day, as long as they CHOOSE to be there, I can`t support them. There is something inheretly wrong with a government that can give someone a life sentence for killing one, yet hands out medals for killing hundreds.
I support life.
In response to “infact i have no tolerance for people that blindly follow orders”:
It’s a sad fact that, throughout history, there are people and groups that want to harm other people and groups. There’s no denying that. So there exists a need for countries to have a military, or at least a police force, to defend their people. Military and police forces simply do not function unless people follow orders, sometimes blindly. Anyone who understands how the military functions will tell you this. Sometimes people can’t know the reasons behind the orders they are given – due to security implications, short reaction times, or any other numerous situations. But most people who join a military or police group believe in the underlying cause and purpose of that group. So, they tend to give the benefit of the doubt to their leaders, and thusly follow their orders, even in the occasional absence of explanation.
Problems arise when military and police forces are used improperly by the government which controls them, but that says nothing of the military itself. In that case, the proper checks and balances are not in place to prevent misuse of the military, and the military cannot be blamed for that. That’s a flaw in the government.
So, unless you’re promoting an anarchistic society in which military and police forces don’t exist and people can do as they wish, people who are willing to “blindly” follow orders are a necessity.
In response to “infact i have no tolerance for people that blindly follow orders”:
It’s a sad fact that, throughout history, there are people and groups that want to harm other people and groups. There’s no denying that. So there exists a need for countries to have a military, or at least a police force, to defend their people. Military and police forces simply do not function unless people follow orders, sometimes blindly. Anyone who understands how the military functions will tell you this. Sometimes people can’t know the reasons behind the orders they are given – due to security implications, short reaction times, or any other numerous situations. But most people who join a military or police group believe in the underlying cause and purpose of that group. So, they tend to give the benefit of the doubt to their leaders, and thusly follow their orders, even in the occasional absence of explanation.
Problems arise when military and police forces are used improperly by the government which controls them, but that says nothing of the military itself. In that case, the proper checks and balances are not in place to prevent misuse of the military, and the military cannot be blamed for that. That’s a flaw in the government.
So, unless you’re promoting an anarchistic society in which military and police forces don’t exist and people can do as they wish, people who are willing to “blindly” follow orders are a necessity.
That tattoo doesn’t necessarily announce a taste for blood or aggression.. it could very well signify pride in training achievements such as SEAL training or somesuch (likely in this case, in fact). Many of the military monikers and themes such as Airborne’s “death from above” is more a pride in eliteness, than signifying bloodlust. Nationalistic pride monikers are far more in abundance than those with aggressive tones, such as someone suggested a flag would be a better representative of military pride in service.
Don’t get it twisted though, these men are soldiers and as such are trained to defend themselves and their national sovereignty with deadly force; that does require a certain degree of conditioning and mentality that makes us sitting comfortably at home in our armchairs squirm a bit.
The human condition is much more interesting to discuss without the flamers and blind reactionaries. Think for thyself.
That tattoo doesn’t necessarily announce a taste for blood or aggression.. it could very well signify pride in training achievements such as SEAL training or somesuch (likely in this case, in fact). Many of the military monikers and themes such as Airborne’s “death from above” is more a pride in eliteness, than signifying bloodlust. Nationalistic pride monikers are far more in abundance than those with aggressive tones, such as someone suggested a flag would be a better representative of military pride in service.
Don’t get it twisted though, these men are soldiers and as such are trained to defend themselves and their national sovereignty with deadly force; that does require a certain degree of conditioning and mentality that makes us sitting comfortably at home in our armchairs squirm a bit.
The human condition is much more interesting to discuss without the flamers and blind reactionaries. Think for thyself.
men AND women are soldiers, sorry.
men AND women are soldiers, sorry.
The accusations people make here are retarded. Accepting someones modification, sexual orientation or personal taste is accepting something that is actually their own business, and nothing you should have to “accept” anyway.
Accepting a persons decicion to kill for a country (or it’s leadership, since that’s what it comes down to) is an entirely different thing.
The accusations people make here are retarded. Accepting someones modification, sexual orientation or personal taste is accepting something that is actually their own business, and nothing you should have to “accept” anyway.
Accepting a persons decicion to kill for a country (or it’s leadership, since that’s what it comes down to) is an entirely different thing.
Amazing how much information so people here are able to get from a simple shot of a tattoo + part of a gun. Anyone care to tell me exactly how many people this guy has killed? Or why he joined the military? Or his shoe size?
A lot of the posts here tell me a lot about the posters own prejudices, and very little about the guy in the photo.
Now maybe we can start to rag on some of the freaks who appear on this site? Or is it just people in combat pants that are fair game for all the hate?
Amazing how much information so people here are able to get from a simple shot of a tattoo + part of a gun. Anyone care to tell me exactly how many people this guy has killed? Or why he joined the military? Or his shoe size?
A lot of the posts here tell me a lot about the posters own prejudices, and very little about the guy in the photo.
Now maybe we can start to rag on some of the freaks who appear on this site? Or is it just people in combat pants that are fair game for all the hate?
It’s really sad that this site has so many disillusioned people posting about the military. What is this 1969 and you’re all bashing the military? Blame the fucking government if you want to point a finger at someone but don’t you fucking dare try and pit all your retarded assumptions of the military on the soldier. And at those knocking “people who blindly follow orders”, you obviously have absolutely no understanding whatsoever of any military practice. Yeah, let’s allow soldiers to each choose which fights to partake in as if it’s some kind of democracy. It’s not.
Get over yourselves. Maybe if you’d get off your asses and actually contribute to the world instead of posting inane comments on a TATTOO AND PIERCING site about things you have no understanding.
Good day.
It’s really sad that this site has so many disillusioned people posting about the military. What is this 1969 and you’re all bashing the military? Blame the fucking government if you want to point a finger at someone but don’t you fucking dare try and pit all your retarded assumptions of the military on the soldier. And at those knocking “people who blindly follow orders”, you obviously have absolutely no understanding whatsoever of any military practice. Yeah, let’s allow soldiers to each choose which fights to partake in as if it’s some kind of democracy. It’s not.
Get over yourselves. Maybe if you’d get off your asses and actually contribute to the world instead of posting inane comments on a TATTOO AND PIERCING site about things you have no understanding.
Good day.
haha, people on modblog are such a bunch of whiney hippies. i think the photo is super hot. but that’s probably becuase society has enforced a view of stereotyped machismo as attractive and desirable and so i’m unable to think for myself. it’s still hot though!
haha, people on modblog are such a bunch of whiney hippies. i think the photo is super hot. but that’s probably becuase society has enforced a view of stereotyped machismo as attractive and desirable and so i’m unable to think for myself. it’s still hot though!