So I was at the grocery store and my daughter and I were looking at all the various bits of animals they had — pig’s feet, pig’s tails, and then, when we picked up a pig’s ear, I saw it had been tattooed… Anyway, tomorrow is a busy day so I’m not sure exactly when I’ll be able to squeeze in posts, but I’ve got some great stuff lined up, and the other good news is that later this week we’ll be posting a full interview with Zombie (aka Skullboy)!
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316 responses to “As if getting killed and eaten wasn’t bad enough!”
Seriously…what with condemning people for their choices in life.
And ys,it is a choice to eat meat.
I know many people are brought up with it and just keeps on eating but in out modern society where people are well aware of vaganism continuing to eat meat is defenatly a choice.
And then again,there are those like me who didn’t eat meat for many years and then started again…
Humans are omnivores. Humans think diferently.
of course you can live well and grow old without eating meat so don’t hand me the thing about not having to,i know that.
For me it’s about expanding my cooking (wich i love).
For some others it might be about the evolutionary ladder.
I think we should start condemning those evil carniverous animals as well…
Seriously…what with condemning people for their choices in life.
And ys,it is a choice to eat meat.
I know many people are brought up with it and just keeps on eating but in out modern society where people are well aware of vaganism continuing to eat meat is defenatly a choice.
And then again,there are those like me who didn’t eat meat for many years and then started again…
Humans are omnivores. Humans think diferently.
of course you can live well and grow old without eating meat so don’t hand me the thing about not having to,i know that.
For me it’s about expanding my cooking (wich i love).
For some others it might be about the evolutionary ladder.
I think we should start condemning those evil carniverous animals as well…
I agree with #73.
My goldfish ate a rainbow fish once. 🙁
I agree with #73.
My goldfish ate a rainbow fish once. 🙁
I don’t blame sailors for wiping out dodos, everything I’ve heard points out that they were rather nasty tasting. That and I’d be one of the people that’d be happy to hunt some fresh meat to the point of wiping out a species, as opposed to living on fish and meat that’d been salted to death.
Certainly one cannot use that in an argument when people in those days didn’t have the internet and such to educate them about eco systems.
And species die out anyway, we’ll die out one day, that’s nature, we’re just giving things a helping hand, somethings are done to excess, yes. But that doesn’t change the simple fact that every single species on this planet will at one point die out.
Why don’t you think animals on farms enjoy a happy life? Sounds to me that you’re guilty of anthropomorphism.
And yes, I do mean the comment I made about there being thousands of miles of empty land that people could responsibly use without causing serious harm to the environment.
And what people exactly are we exploiting by breeding animals to eat? Certainly not the consumers who want to eat it, and certainly not the people that choose not to eat it.
If you are thinking that we could use the land used to raise and feed animals to feed third world countries then I’m going to have to say that you’re the naive one here.
Feeding people costs money. It takes money to buy the land, plant crops, water them, fertilise them, harvest them, prepare them, transport them, package etc. Money that those people do not have. I for one am not going to cut back on my eating habbits and give other people my hard earned money so someone else can benefit from it.
Oh, and you completely misinterpreted what Emily was trying to get at.
I don’t blame sailors for wiping out dodos, everything I’ve heard points out that they were rather nasty tasting. That and I’d be one of the people that’d be happy to hunt some fresh meat to the point of wiping out a species, as opposed to living on fish and meat that’d been salted to death.
Certainly one cannot use that in an argument when people in those days didn’t have the internet and such to educate them about eco systems.
And species die out anyway, we’ll die out one day, that’s nature, we’re just giving things a helping hand, somethings are done to excess, yes. But that doesn’t change the simple fact that every single species on this planet will at one point die out.
Why don’t you think animals on farms enjoy a happy life? Sounds to me that you’re guilty of anthropomorphism.
And yes, I do mean the comment I made about there being thousands of miles of empty land that people could responsibly use without causing serious harm to the environment.
And what people exactly are we exploiting by breeding animals to eat? Certainly not the consumers who want to eat it, and certainly not the people that choose not to eat it.
If you are thinking that we could use the land used to raise and feed animals to feed third world countries then I’m going to have to say that you’re the naive one here.
Feeding people costs money. It takes money to buy the land, plant crops, water them, fertilise them, harvest them, prepare them, transport them, package etc. Money that those people do not have. I for one am not going to cut back on my eating habbits and give other people my hard earned money so someone else can benefit from it.
Oh, and you completely misinterpreted what Emily was trying to get at.
Slightly aside from this meat-eater/veggie war, I have question more concerning the tattoo itself (as I’m almost positive that it’s the reason a pig’s ear was featured on Modblog).
It concerns also the ethical treatment of animals. I agree it is unethical that they are subjected to such poor treatment while growing up waiting to be slaughtered, and for that reason we have free range farms (although they do take up tons of land and resources). But say you were still in support of free range farming, as many are, would you also be against tattooing as identification for animals?
In short: do you think it’s ethical to use tattooing as a form of ID on an animal?
I’m just interested to hear what people think…
Slightly aside from this meat-eater/veggie war, I have question more concerning the tattoo itself (as I’m almost positive that it’s the reason a pig’s ear was featured on Modblog).
It concerns also the ethical treatment of animals. I agree it is unethical that they are subjected to such poor treatment while growing up waiting to be slaughtered, and for that reason we have free range farms (although they do take up tons of land and resources). But say you were still in support of free range farming, as many are, would you also be against tattooing as identification for animals?
In short: do you think it’s ethical to use tattooing as a form of ID on an animal?
I’m just interested to hear what people think…
hey, carnivores and vegnazis, just don’t sit down at the table together, okay? every one is entitled to their opinion.
meat = yummy
meat industry = evil
soy = yummy
soy plantations = evil
hey, carnivores and vegnazis, just don’t sit down at the table together, okay? every one is entitled to their opinion.
meat = yummy
meat industry = evil
soy = yummy
soy plantations = evil
I’m an omnivore, vegetables are good, and so’s meat :/
Tofu though…
I’m an omnivore, vegetables are good, and so’s meat :/
Tofu though…
Lene, I live in England. Laws and changes in society are changing the way we raise and slaughter; the change to free-range/organic has taken over demand for cheap meat, still a way to go before eradicating it completely but it’s moving in the right direction.
Wild boar died out in England a few hundred years ago. Over the last few years boar have been introduced back into woodland around the country, for the purpose of conserving and increasing the population of these animals while providing meat.
I believe that free range farming with the correct slaughter is the best option. Personally I wouldn’t mind never having to eat meat again and converting our farming resources to soy and other alternatives; but realistically that’ll never happen, so the best thing that I can do as a consumer is to support producers who farm correctly and try to put battery farms out of business.
Lene, I live in England. Laws and changes in society are changing the way we raise and slaughter; the change to free-range/organic has taken over demand for cheap meat, still a way to go before eradicating it completely but it’s moving in the right direction.
Wild boar died out in England a few hundred years ago. Over the last few years boar have been introduced back into woodland around the country, for the purpose of conserving and increasing the population of these animals while providing meat.
I believe that free range farming with the correct slaughter is the best option. Personally I wouldn’t mind never having to eat meat again and converting our farming resources to soy and other alternatives; but realistically that’ll never happen, so the best thing that I can do as a consumer is to support producers who farm correctly and try to put battery farms out of business.
hey man, don’t diss the soy. soy is amazing. however, the fact that soy plantations are destroying vital ecosystems is, in my opinion, just as bad as the meat industry. by plowing down rainforests to plant soy, you’re killing off a large percentage of flora and fauna that can’t really be found anywhere else.. le serpent qui se mord la queue, peut être?
hey man, don’t diss the soy. soy is amazing. however, the fact that soy plantations are destroying vital ecosystems is, in my opinion, just as bad as the meat industry. by plowing down rainforests to plant soy, you’re killing off a large percentage of flora and fauna that can’t really be found anywhere else.. le serpent qui se mord la queue, peut être?
10, 18, 50, 65: Don’t eat the plant my meat needs to eat (harhar). :-).
10, 18, 50, 65: Don’t eat the plant my meat needs to eat (harhar). :-).
@ cat: most of the soy is used by the meat industry to feed the animals, not to produce tofu…
@ caspar: yeah, that´s ok… I was just a little upset by these aggressive and mindless comments that appeared without any veggie statement before…
@ PiXiETroll: Oh, and carnivorous animals are just natural. But animals kept in mass stocks, to assuage human appetite, are (just in my opinion:-) quite sick;-)
@ cat: most of the soy is used by the meat industry to feed the animals, not to produce tofu…
@ caspar: yeah, that´s ok… I was just a little upset by these aggressive and mindless comments that appeared without any veggie statement before…
@ PiXiETroll: Oh, and carnivorous animals are just natural. But animals kept in mass stocks, to assuage human appetite, are (just in my opinion:-) quite sick;-)
Lene, you’re right that it doesn’t primarily go towards making tofu (rather, biodiesel mostly, then livestock feed, then soy byproducts). However, some of us omnivores choose to eat free range meat and choose organic, local produce rather than mass produced.. don’t throw us all in the same bag.
Lene, you’re right that it doesn’t primarily go towards making tofu (rather, biodiesel mostly, then livestock feed, then soy byproducts). However, some of us omnivores choose to eat free range meat and choose organic, local produce rather than mass produced.. don’t throw us all in the same bag.
@57 yea its a “hammer” with the number of farm its from so they know the origin ist with pins and they beat it on the pig and when its dead the numbers appear
but on the ear that must be with ink
anyway i was a vegitarian not anymore and anyone needs to respect another man’s choise to eat whatever he wants
@57 yea its a “hammer” with the number of farm its from so they know the origin ist with pins and they beat it on the pig and when its dead the numbers appear
but on the ear that must be with ink
anyway i was a vegitarian not anymore and anyone needs to respect another man’s choise to eat whatever he wants
Jacques- I generally avoid arguing on the Internet because I think it’s pointless, and specifically in this case I highly doubt anything I could say would convince you to think differently, and you’re certainly not going to convince me to not eat meat. Usually I don’t even comment on other peoples comments!
But I will agree that tofu is gross!
Jacques- I generally avoid arguing on the Internet because I think it’s pointless, and specifically in this case I highly doubt anything I could say would convince you to think differently, and you’re certainly not going to convince me to not eat meat. Usually I don’t even comment on other peoples comments!
But I will agree that tofu is gross!
I think the problem isn’t eating meat in and of itself but the way that the meat industry exists and the sheer VOLUME of meat that people consume… the proportions of how much meat vs. veggies that most people in North America eat is WAY off, hence the rampant obesity and obesity-related problems. Eating meat isn’t bad and it’s not bad for you, but if you eat like 3/4 meat and 1/4 of all the food you eat, it’s just not healthy anymore. And that’s what a LOT of North Americans eat. If people just reduced their consumption, even a little bit then I doubt it would be such a problem.
I think the problem isn’t eating meat in and of itself but the way that the meat industry exists and the sheer VOLUME of meat that people consume… the proportions of how much meat vs. veggies that most people in North America eat is WAY off, hence the rampant obesity and obesity-related problems. Eating meat isn’t bad and it’s not bad for you, but if you eat like 3/4 meat and 1/4 of all the food you eat, it’s just not healthy anymore. And that’s what a LOT of North Americans eat. If people just reduced their consumption, even a little bit then I doubt it would be such a problem.
*3/4 meat and 1/4 veggies, that should say
*3/4 meat and 1/4 veggies, that should say
^mmmhmm^
^mmmhmm^
haha…i would fry that up for thanksgiving 😉
about the vegans, I was vegan but then i realised no matter what they are going to kill the animals so i might as well eat their meat so they didn’t die for nothing. its better than not eating it and having all those animals be killed just to have their meat rot in grocery stores.
haha…i would fry that up for thanksgiving 😉
about the vegans, I was vegan but then i realised no matter what they are going to kill the animals so i might as well eat their meat so they didn’t die for nothing. its better than not eating it and having all those animals be killed just to have their meat rot in grocery stores.
Yeahhhh interview with Zombie!! Can’t actually wait to read that 😀
Yeahhhh interview with Zombie!! Can’t actually wait to read that 😀
definitely agree with 85,
i’m vegan but i don’t look down on people that eat meat
cos i ate it at one point as well
almost all my mates meat and i can’t look at them any differently
it’s horrid what happens to animals of course but telling other people they’re disgusting for what they’re eating will not make that go away
you should be able to eat what you’d like
bare if you weren’t raised vegetarian or vegan
you’ve no right to judge cos you’ve eaten meat before
so you’re just a hypocrit
(:
definitely agree with 85,
i’m vegan but i don’t look down on people that eat meat
cos i ate it at one point as well
almost all my mates meat and i can’t look at them any differently
it’s horrid what happens to animals of course but telling other people they’re disgusting for what they’re eating will not make that go away
you should be able to eat what you’d like
bare if you weren’t raised vegetarian or vegan
you’ve no right to judge cos you’ve eaten meat before
so you’re just a hypocrit
(:
Frester, I would never dream of ever even trying to convince anyone not to eat meat, I love the stuff.
And yes, the whole e-argument is entirely pointless, interesting on occasion but most of the time it’s not ever going to change someone’s mind.
Frester, I would never dream of ever even trying to convince anyone not to eat meat, I love the stuff.
And yes, the whole e-argument is entirely pointless, interesting on occasion but most of the time it’s not ever going to change someone’s mind.
Can’t wait for the interview! 🙂
And just to add my 2 cents, I love meat :D. I have worked at a chicken farm and seen how they live and let me tell you something. They get out of their cages walk outside peck around for a while then go back inside, and sit around the cages until someone puts them back in. I would think if they were suffering they would run when they got the chance.
I know where my meat comes from, I know how it is raised/treated, I know (and have seen) how it is slaughtered. And I love meat.
Can’t wait for the interview! 🙂
And just to add my 2 cents, I love meat :D. I have worked at a chicken farm and seen how they live and let me tell you something. They get out of their cages walk outside peck around for a while then go back inside, and sit around the cages until someone puts them back in. I would think if they were suffering they would run when they got the chance.
I know where my meat comes from, I know how it is raised/treated, I know (and have seen) how it is slaughtered. And I love meat.
i don´t think eating meat is a vile act, but i do think this total disregard about animals, in many comments of this picture for example, it is vile.
i don´t think eating meat is a vile act, but i do think this total disregard about animals, in many comments of this picture for example, it is vile.
y’all are making me hungry
y’all are making me hungry
you know what zombie vegans eat right?
Graaaaaaaiiiiinssss. GRaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiinssss….
you know what zombie vegans eat right?
Graaaaaaaiiiiinssss. GRaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiinssss….
Hmm, perhaps we should respect people’s choices to kill other people too? Because they like to do it, so they should be allowed to, right? They are okay with you not killing people, so you should just shut up and let them do it.
Haha, of course I don’t see it as the same thing, but some people do.
Like many others, I’m mostly upset about the factory farms, abuse, and the evilness of the whole industry (to be vague). And the lack of moderation in anything. Since I have so many options living where I am to eat less/no meat and stay healthy, why wouldn’t I? To at least think about what I’m eating and where it came from and how it affects others. This really can apply to anything though.
It’s not easy by any means and on top if it you have to deal with jerks and people who want to stay actively ignorant. ._. That I don’t get. Or people who try so hard to find out that you’re wrong, or look! You ate this and it’s an animal product! Or whatever…
Hmm, perhaps we should respect people’s choices to kill other people too? Because they like to do it, so they should be allowed to, right? They are okay with you not killing people, so you should just shut up and let them do it.
Haha, of course I don’t see it as the same thing, but some people do.
Like many others, I’m mostly upset about the factory farms, abuse, and the evilness of the whole industry (to be vague). And the lack of moderation in anything. Since I have so many options living where I am to eat less/no meat and stay healthy, why wouldn’t I? To at least think about what I’m eating and where it came from and how it affects others. This really can apply to anything though.
It’s not easy by any means and on top if it you have to deal with jerks and people who want to stay actively ignorant. ._. That I don’t get. Or people who try so hard to find out that you’re wrong, or look! You ate this and it’s an animal product! Or whatever…