Cupcake did some modelling for Dead Issues Clothing.
Kuntz or Beaver, which will it be?
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199 responses to “Kuntz or Beaver, which will it be?”
Well, gee Giles… it seems that with 150 comments these images have stirred a debate among enough people to be considered of interest. Best or not, there are a # of people who feel the need to discuss them, apparently. If it’s that big of a deal to you just skip over the pics and move on to something more your style. As it is, the images obviously got you talking….
Giles – What’s wrong with a provocative piece of imagery that includes mods on a well known IAM member and industry professional? I see it as completely relevant, especially given the large comment list that’s followed it!
Being that Cupcake is a consistant contributer to this site, and a professional body piercer, isnt any artwork she does however “tasteless and rude” applicable to open discussion here? Looked to me like she got a lil plug or a mention of something she’s been upto, while actually displaying her mods. it wasnt her that posted roughly 150 comments on the matter…
Shannon – The problem is that the comments have absolutely nothing to do with her modifications at all. The vast majority of comments here (and on certain other posts) have absolutely nothing to do with Body Modification and are (with a few exceptions) to do with either the attractiveness of the person involved or the context of the picture. If the idea is to generate discussion about the person’s modification then it hasn’t worked particularly well.
I can’t wait to see the response to Habakuk here.
Giles – As I said, it’s not just about the modifications and nothing else — it’s about the modified people that build the IAM/BME site/community and the things they’re doing as well. It definitely generated comments about that!!!
Giles, I don’t see why having a post that doesn’t directly focus on body modifications is a big deal. Especially if someone modded is sharing them!
We all bear body mods, but our life isn’t solely about them, is it?
Mine isn’t.
I love my tattoos, but I can have a rational conversation involving other things. I can look at other photos, talk to people who aren’t wearing tattoos/piercings, and function like a rational adult.
Is body mods ALL we’re about? Can’t we see and discuss other things that are in our lives, and pertain to what we enjoy?
If not, then why bother being part of a community?
Why reach out to other people to teach them what you know, discuss with them what you love, and share your experiences? Why bother sending in photos at all if the community that’s SUPPOSE to welcome you with open arms can do nothing but find fault?
I for one, am glad that it’s Shannon’s blog, as opposed to yours. If you maintained this site we’d miss a lot of things that our brothers and sisters are trying to share with us…
Only 58 entries before Godwin’s Law applied, is this a Modblog record?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_Law
I’ve got to hand it to you Shannon, you sure know how to rattle people’s cages.
classic Digger…heh
Yeah, I was going to ask- who Godwinned it?
Here are a few more points-
1. Yes it’s Shannon’s blog, he can do what he wants, of course.
2. That should not be an issue- nobody has asked him to take it down.
3. I still maintain that all of you people out there who think that the “haters” are getting their panties in a bunch- It’s about RESPECT. Sure, you might not mind having it done to your gravestone, fine. It’s your body, it’s your life, fine.
DO NOT fuck with someone else’s shit. It’s a basic tenet of life. No matter what religion you are- Pagan, Jewish, Christian, Buddhist- whatever. Respect others.
If you can’t manage to respect others, it doesn’t make you hardcore, it makes you a dumbass.
I really don’t believe in the concept of grave yards. Why would you want to be embalmed so that people you don’t know can walk on your petrified corpse some day? Dumb. Its unnatural, its illogical, its very unfriendly to the environment, and its just silly.
That said, I’m not really cool with the squatting picture. That’s just a bit much.
CupCake
i think the shots are awesome, you look beautiful in them
and also happy birthday for today 🙂
hope you enjoyed it
peace
I have to agree with poloman, have a great birthday CupCake!! 🙂
…really?
this is what shocks people?
Fake111 – You’ve already used my name on one of your shity shirts. I’ll say again, I don’t appreciate it.
As many people commented, I’m rarely disgusted by anything. And while I don’t take personal offense, I do think that this is disrespectful to the families rather then the deceased.
I believe burials/funerals/gravesites and act as a sense of closure for the families. Additionally I can appreciate base/toilet humor as much as the person but this I find to be plain tasteless.
Casey, sorry your name is either Fake Bitter or Doll…but so what. At least the Beaver shot people have a valid argumnent, and believe me I have no plans to repeat that type of shot in light of this recent discussion. But I have to say a Bitter shirt seems right up your alley. If the name fits wear it…
Do you honestly think that the people with those last names haven’t had the clever humor of their names pointed out since they were in grade school? I just think its disgusting that you’re attempting to (and probably are) profiting off of people’s last names, on gravestones no less.
In the context I use them in, they are just words. I dont put first names and stuff on the shirts for that reason. Do you get upset when you see signs with your name on it too?
>>>I for one, am glad that it’s Shannon’s blog, as opposed to yours. If you maintained this site we’d miss a lot of things that our brothers and sisters are trying to share with us…
Yes you’d miss a lady squatting over two gravestones or multiple pictures of naked women with minor mods. Your life would indeed be poorer because of it. (sic)
The thought of people being at a funeral or paying respects to a loved one and seeing that behaviour taking place is a reasonable reason for people to take offence . Not saying anyone saw but it easily could have happened and I think it showed a lack of respect to those who are grieving. I don’t think it means the people involved should be seen as evil heartless people though. There was no malicious intent involved. Some people will find the pics funny, others won’t. You can’t win em all.
Cupcake is gorgeous, but I find this picture in poor taste and disrespectful of the dead. There’s nothing wrong with Cupcake’s appearance in the photo, it’s the place in which they had the photo shoot. Yeah, the company is called Dead Issues – so what? Make a set up at the studio with some polystyrene graves or something. Don’t go and play around on graves at the cemetery. If these were graves of my relatives I would be furious. Luckily they aren’t, so I’m only mildly offended.
…or any number of other things you bitch about…
I actually like the Bitter print, it’s very eerie and sad, though I wouldn’t wear it on a t’shirt. (screen-printed photos rarely come out that well, especially black and white, they tend to get muddy, add to that that a block of print isn’t very pleasing to the eye on a shirt either..) It’s a shame your images of DI girls seems to make your artwork trite. I understand the concept, but the execution needs work. Someone who appreciates the Bitter print may invariably be turned off by the flash and crass.
I think there is a huge difference between seeing your last name in the context of a word and seeing what could be a family members grave with your last name on it.
And Giles, in case your comment was for me, this is the first and only time I’ve ever actually felt offended by anything I’ve seen on modblog. Maybe it’s because it hits close to home. None of the other posts that seemed to offend so many even made me bat an eye.
Scarlet, I sell them as prints too. But I think the shirt images have come along nicely after a few trial runs. And as for not being pleasing to the eye on a shirt, there are those who agree and disagree safe to say. As far as the DI girls go, that started out merely to show the shirts on a person, and some people like to send me pics of them for the site as they like to be exposed a bit. Being that most of them are SG’s, we’re used to tough critisism for the most part. Hell, Im used to it from everything Ive done in my life in the music and art world, as Im sure plenty here can attest to as well. And Casey, its quite true my shirts are not for everyone…some people are more morbid than others. You could have just ignored all this and not helped it get the legs in this blog it did. But you have the right to voice your opinions just as everyone does. While I find it obnoxious that people wear that asshole Charles Manson shirts, I dont spout off about it everytime I see one. I just dont buy anything like that. To each his/her own.
No Casey my comments were not for you. They were for Justjen to absorb whilst I pat her on the head and send her on her way.
“Hell, Im used to it from everything Ive done in my life in the music and art world, as Im sure plenty here can attest to as well.” Hah, you’re such a tortured artist.
Well, Fake111, I’d love to see a close up, especially if those shirts are ribbed. I honestly though heat transfer would be the better way to go with that sort of thing just because (though they have a bad rep, a proper heat transfer can be quite nice). The shirt she’s wearing does seem to come out crisp, but it’s hard to tell if the detail was ok. They’ve also got digital printers if you’re welling to sell a kidney or two, but the pre-treat on black leaves an awful film that doesn’t seem to want to wash out. I imagine doing process rather than spot color on black wouldn’t be all that easy.
Do you use plastisol or water-based ink?
*laugh*
You’re a riot Giles!
I’m not religious or anything, but i think this is pretty disrespectful.
But, at the same time, when im dead and buried, i hope there’s a hot naked broad posing on my gravestone. Sexy, but disrespectful.
Scarlete, email me thru the site or at [email protected] and we’ll talk. Ill tell ya anything ya wanna know and make sure you have a better idea of what I have to offer. Thanks
funny to see such rampant condescencion here… Jessica,I never said I was tortured, but Im sure Im not the only one who had different interests and heard plenty of narrow-minded critques most of their life. I guess you always fit into everything acceptable by the masses so you should definetly have due cause to judge me with all your expansive knowledge of what I have done and do. Congrats, must be nice to be a supreme being. But really, how much can you really know about me and my works? You only know what I tell you or show you. This venture is such a small part of what I have done. But does it really matter to anyone where Ive been and what Ive done and seen? I doubt it, unless you like it and want to see more. And those who dont I figure will scoff and move on like they should.
This happens to be my fathers burial plot, g.m. Beever, and seeing as how the selfish scumbag insisted on leaving his family with a $10,000 burial debt, as opposed to being cremated like any other selfless individual, I believe the charges of “disrespectful” seem a bit unfounded and down right pretentious. I personally find it disrespectful for my family to have to inherit a debt we will never be able to afford, based solely on the fact that we (the popular majority) are all so hellbent on these meaningless atavistic rituals, that we have no problem mortgaging our families future for the sake of an ancient and unreasonably flawed symbolism.
“1. The number one benefit is COST – According to AARP, the average (U.S.) cost of a traditional funeral is $4,300. If you want to be buried in the ground, this can add an additional $2,400. Even direct cremation with a land burial can be as much as $3,000.00 or more. You can visit AARP’s website and request a free booklet regarding funeral costs.
A simple, Direct Cremation and burial at sea can cost as little as $325.00, depending on the firm you choose do perform the cremation. Remember to ask for all details. Direct Cremation can mean different things at each mortuary or funeral home.”
wow….
y’all are dead in the water.
waitwaitwait, what? gm beaver or beever? (I mean, really..)
The selfless thing to do would be to arrange with a company or school to donate your body to science, preferably one that also cremates you once they’re done with you for free. (or leaves you to rot for science.. that’s good too.)
Fake111, I’ll be in contact shortly. (:
“yes you’d miss a lady squatting over two grave stones or multiple pictures of naked women with minor mods.”
Giles….get OVER The amount of mods in the pictures!!! he could post pictures of plain ol’ lobe piercings and t would still be mods!!!….intense or not….cupcake DOES have mods….that really should be all that fucking matters!!! oh, and shes only squatting on ONE o.o
Question about the sueing thing: But don’t you Americans (I assume, since no other place that I know has laws were you can sue someone for standing on a gravestone?) get tired of threatening to sue people for retarded things?
It’s obvious fucking sarcasm grow a sense of humor or something better to do than start a fucking flame war. It always amazed me how easy it is to sit behind a computer and pass judgement on people you’ve never met. You must be a lawyer, nice to meet you. I work for the IRS. Cheers
“Giles – I don’t personally think corpses have rights, and I don’t think we should coddle people in the notion that they do because it’s one of the most wasteful things we do as a species.”
Intelligently put and I’m quite honestly surprised most open-minded cohesive individuals who value their opinions unopressed in any matter to get all up in arms about inanimate tissue. Have any of you been grieving about the countless lifeforms that are snuffed out of exinction on a daily basis to cater the countless luxuries you require to maintain your pampered existence? I’m waiting for some kind of counter argument on this, but most of you seem lacking in a coherant response that would somehow hide your hipocritcal overtones.
All is one, death is a journey, not an end, and hangups are a crux on my existance.
Nobody said anything that the model wasn’t beautiful. Where are all these posts coming from that say ignore the haters?
She’s stunningly beautiful, but I disagree with her standing on a gravestone. Where does that get translated into ANYONE commenting on her looks?
The point remains- Whether you believe in graveyards, gravestones, pumping your dick, carving designs in your flesh or worshipping a pink elephant—that is your business.
Start disrespecting what I believe in and you’re crossing the line. How hard is it? You can do whatever you want with your body, but do not tell me how I should treat mine.
Shannon, this goes out to you- I was especially surprised by how intolerant your comments seem about burial. You may choose to have your body lay in a forest, but I want my body buried according to Jewish law. To each his own. You don’t want people to tell you what you should do to your body when you’re alive, do you think that just because you *personally* believe that graveyards are a waste of resources you should deny other’s the respect that they deserve surrounding one of life’s most sacred moments?
Respect other’s wishes.
Do whatever you wish to yourself as long as it does not hurt others.
…..and…..
live and let live, or in this case,
live and let die.
“Have any of you been grieving about the countless lifeforms that are snuffed out of exinction on a daily basis to cater the countless luxuries you require to maintain your pampered existence?”
Actually, I do. And funnily enough, I don’t have countless luxuries. I’m pretty dirt poor.
To me, it’s not about corpses having rights or not. Do I think they should have the right to freedom of speech? To vote? Obviously not, because they’re dead.
But I believe in respect for the dead. My post said nothing about flaming other people for their beliefs. I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I know that some people don’t respect the dead like I do. It doesn’t mean that I’m not allowed to state my opinion. I happen to be alive, and thus have the right to freedom of speech 😉
Phalaeo – very well put. My thoughts precisely.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/asxwexfall/tombstonexk3.jpg
My parents were killed when i was three, i come there to remember them, to just visit (i know they are gone, and they cant hear,) but its the place i can feel closest to them, if i ever saw anyoen doing soemthing SO FUCKING DISRESPECTFUL to their grave omg that is so fucking wrong
I vote 4 beaver … !_!
There shall always be dispute between two different viewpoints.