I’ve posted Mandy (iam:kitten, cut by Dave) a few times before, but the reason I’m posting her today is that I saw a rather disconcertingly similar piece recently — which I should mention that the wearer insists was planned separately. It’s a really pretty design, so I suppose it’s no surprise that it would be duplicated eventually, but independent of debates about “plagiarism” versus “inspiration” versus “great minds think alike”, I like them both and hope that people are able to walk away without hard feelings on either side.
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174 responses to “Scars by Dave Gillstrap”
There is not a copyright on the images as hand. What was placed on Nae were original drawings that Keylan spent many hours redrawing to meet his personal style and Nae’s taste.
There is not a copyright on the images as hand. What was placed on Nae were original drawings that Keylan spent many hours redrawing to meet his personal style and Nae’s taste.
*by origninal drawings I mean that Keylan did not trace them from anywhere*
*by origninal drawings I mean that Keylan did not trace them from anywhere*
cherry bloosoms in this location and design format is one of the commonest motifs of japanese artwork.
Thousands of people would have to have hard feelings.
cherry bloosoms in this location and design format is one of the commonest motifs of japanese artwork.
Thousands of people would have to have hard feelings.
oh yeah, and if you’re going to talk about copyright, take a look at horiyoshi’s page, on which he has the EXACT SAME blossoms, done as a tattoo, on about forty different women.
Seriously, traced or not, it is a simple drawing of a very common motif, if there are any hurt feelings it should be the hundreds of women who are wearing the same idea and motif.
Traced or not, yet again, it isn’t substantially different from thousands of tattoos,drawing, paintings, and scars I’ve seen. Cherry blossoms are beautiful and the way these are drawn are not very unusual-it would be hard to tell them apart stylistically from hundreds of others.
oh yeah, and if you’re going to talk about copyright, take a look at horiyoshi’s page, on which he has the EXACT SAME blossoms, done as a tattoo, on about forty different women.
Seriously, traced or not, it is a simple drawing of a very common motif, if there are any hurt feelings it should be the hundreds of women who are wearing the same idea and motif.
Traced or not, yet again, it isn’t substantially different from thousands of tattoos,drawing, paintings, and scars I’ve seen. Cherry blossoms are beautiful and the way these are drawn are not very unusual-it would be hard to tell them apart stylistically from hundreds of others.
The way I see it is when you make a choice to mod your body you are doing it for yourself, right? Regardless of what anyone says, thinks, or does it should not alter it’s importance or personal signifigance. Maybe I’m just too laid back but I don’t understand all the drama in the B-M-E.
The way I see it is when you make a choice to mod your body you are doing it for yourself, right? Regardless of what anyone says, thinks, or does it should not alter it’s importance or personal signifigance. Maybe I’m just too laid back but I don’t understand all the drama in the B-M-E.
I don’t understand it either. In 80 years, both of them will be dead and buried, and in 150 or so, not a single person will be living that knew them persoanlly. So in the end, who cares?
I don’t understand it either. In 80 years, both of them will be dead and buried, and in 150 or so, not a single person will be living that knew them persoanlly. So in the end, who cares?
I… really don’t get it. How could anybody possibly claim this is copying? It’s not like two different human beings have never had the same idea before. They’re bloody FLOWERS. A common flower on a popular part of the body in a pattern that flows well with that part of the body. It’s not so shocking that they’d end up with similar results.
I… really don’t get it. How could anybody possibly claim this is copying? It’s not like two different human beings have never had the same idea before. They’re bloody FLOWERS. A common flower on a popular part of the body in a pattern that flows well with that part of the body. It’s not so shocking that they’d end up with similar results.
First off, leave the poor girl alone. Her mod is not unique, no, and yet it IS because it is on *HER*. It is absolutely beautiful and suits her shape well.
I have a completely original hand drawn piece of tattoo art draping over my right shoulder, consisting of floral elements (not unique) and an infinity sign (also not unique) and a pearl necklace (again, not unique). But the configuration itself is one-of-a-kind. Thing is, my sister & I had it done together to commemorate our sisterhood, so it’s NOT unique! See how that works?
Secondly, did anybody else notice the placement of the Modblog logo in the photo? I dig it. Very clever, Shannon!
PS: “…and SEX is a big part of the body modification community, and arguably the BIGGEST part of the community when you look at the big picture, since it’s the sexual aspects that survive in between the bubbles of fashion — if it wasn’t for people who find body modification sexually interesting, it would die out completely.”
Absolutely right, Shannon – well said.
First off, leave the poor girl alone. Her mod is not unique, no, and yet it IS because it is on *HER*. It is absolutely beautiful and suits her shape well.
I have a completely original hand drawn piece of tattoo art draping over my right shoulder, consisting of floral elements (not unique) and an infinity sign (also not unique) and a pearl necklace (again, not unique). But the configuration itself is one-of-a-kind. Thing is, my sister & I had it done together to commemorate our sisterhood, so it’s NOT unique! See how that works?
Secondly, did anybody else notice the placement of the Modblog logo in the photo? I dig it. Very clever, Shannon!
PS: “…and SEX is a big part of the body modification community, and arguably the BIGGEST part of the community when you look at the big picture, since it’s the sexual aspects that survive in between the bubbles of fashion — if it wasn’t for people who find body modification sexually interesting, it would die out completely.”
Absolutely right, Shannon – well said.
I doubt if you could claim theft of design here, because the design clearly has much older roots. Even if Mandy would have gotten the idea from Kitten, it is not because of the originality of Kitten’s design, but simply because Kitten’s scars were the transmitter of a well known and very recognizable existing beautiful design. The design/concept which is also widely transmitted through books and internet sites. The type and placement on the body are similar, and perhaps could have inspired Mandy because it is so beautiful, but hey we all have similar bodies and put our body mods on similar places. That makes us a community. We learn from each other.
Both Kitten and Mandy have liked the well known lotus flower + fallen petal concept so much that they have chosen it to permanently adorn their bodies. And I think that is so beautiful!
I doubt if you could claim theft of design here, because the design clearly has much older roots. Even if Mandy would have gotten the idea from Kitten, it is not because of the originality of Kitten’s design, but simply because Kitten’s scars were the transmitter of a well known and very recognizable existing beautiful design. The design/concept which is also widely transmitted through books and internet sites. The type and placement on the body are similar, and perhaps could have inspired Mandy because it is so beautiful, but hey we all have similar bodies and put our body mods on similar places. That makes us a community. We learn from each other.
Both Kitten and Mandy have liked the well known lotus flower + fallen petal concept so much that they have chosen it to permanently adorn their bodies. And I think that is so beautiful!
#84, Kitten=Mandy. The other person is Nae.
#84, Kitten=Mandy. The other person is Nae.
yay dave! it’s so awesome to see a hometown artist’s work recognized on modblog, i think it’s beautiful.
yay dave! it’s so awesome to see a hometown artist’s work recognized on modblog, i think it’s beautiful.
they’re both beautiful and mandy is awesome.
what if they never wanted to be different, they just wanted to be themselves?
they’re both beautiful and mandy is awesome.
what if they never wanted to be different, they just wanted to be themselves?