Tim Kern‘s first kill, memorialized and celebrated in ink by Scott Duncan at Sugar Shack in Kincardine, ON (photo by Twwly). If you want to know a bit more about the “why” of this tattoo, welcome to Twwly country!
Ethel’s Decapitation
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150 responses to “Ethel’s Decapitation”
mmm chicken. If it wasn’t for meat eating we wouldn’t be the society we are. Read “the hunting hypothesis” by Robert Ardrey. Sheds a lot of light on to why killing is good.
mmm chicken. If it wasn’t for meat eating we wouldn’t be the society we are. Read “the hunting hypothesis” by Robert Ardrey. Sheds a lot of light on to why killing is good.
#19, you’re entirely missing the point. The point is if you could not, hypothetically, kill what you’re eating….maybe you should do some hard thinking about your lifestyle choices.
I believe the exact quote is ” If you couldn’t kill it, you shouldn’t eat it.” Couldn’t being the key term there. Not “If you don’t kill it, you shouldn’t eat it.”
The point that “meat eating” is the most natural thing a human can do is the most amusing part of your entire comment. If you’re eating the meat….it died. Someone had to kill it. You’re undermining your previous point. If it doesn’t matter how it died, or who killed it….why are your knickers in a twist over this?
Gorgeous tattoo, by the by. 😀
#19, you’re entirely missing the point. The point is if you could not, hypothetically, kill what you’re eating….maybe you should do some hard thinking about your lifestyle choices.
I believe the exact quote is ” If you couldn’t kill it, you shouldn’t eat it.” Couldn’t being the key term there. Not “If you don’t kill it, you shouldn’t eat it.”
The point that “meat eating” is the most natural thing a human can do is the most amusing part of your entire comment. If you’re eating the meat….it died. Someone had to kill it. You’re undermining your previous point. If it doesn’t matter how it died, or who killed it….why are your knickers in a twist over this?
Gorgeous tattoo, by the by. 😀
Growing up on a farm that had chicken houses I know first hand that the raising and chickens for meat is very cruel and unsanitary. It is really disgusting, but I haven’t let that stop me from eating chicken or any other meat. Its a process thats going to be here for a long time.
Growing up on a farm that had chicken houses I know first hand that the raising and chickens for meat is very cruel and unsanitary. It is really disgusting, but I haven’t let that stop me from eating chicken or any other meat. Its a process thats going to be here for a long time.
Twwly – You are in a privileged position and one that is only shared by a tiny minority of people. The need to process and distributed large amounts of meat based on the demands of a fast growing population could never ever be met by your methods, this is why factory farming has come in being, to meet the demands of a vast population.
We (the UK) have regulatory bodies that monitor the methods and cleanliness of the farming industry, I suspect even the US might have too. These regulations and quality control checks I am guessing do not stretch to those killing and preparing their own meat. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Your methods may well suit you but they would never apply or work within the vast majority of society.
Twwly – You are in a privileged position and one that is only shared by a tiny minority of people. The need to process and distributed large amounts of meat based on the demands of a fast growing population could never ever be met by your methods, this is why factory farming has come in being, to meet the demands of a vast population.
We (the UK) have regulatory bodies that monitor the methods and cleanliness of the farming industry, I suspect even the US might have too. These regulations and quality control checks I am guessing do not stretch to those killing and preparing their own meat. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Your methods may well suit you but they would never apply or work within the vast majority of society.
I really like the theory behind this, and would eat meat if the animals were brought up in a free, happy environment. But I think I would get too attatched to them. It doesn’t help that I named my cat Chicken 🙂
I really like the theory behind this, and would eat meat if the animals were brought up in a free, happy environment. But I think I would get too attatched to them. It doesn’t help that I named my cat Chicken 🙂
you gotta be a fucking retard to make a blog and post pictures like that on it.
what a douchebag.
you gotta be a fucking retard to make a blog and post pictures like that on it.
what a douchebag.
Dude, Giles, we get it already.
Dude, Giles, we get it already.
Agree with the desire to be closer to one’s food source and as everyone already said it is, unfortunately, not feasible for most of us.
All that aside, fucking amazing tattoo. I hope it stays as vibrant when it is fully healed.
Agree with the desire to be closer to one’s food source and as everyone already said it is, unfortunately, not feasible for most of us.
All that aside, fucking amazing tattoo. I hope it stays as vibrant when it is fully healed.
Quickly addressing a few points:
– Chickens have an incredibly efficient environmental impact. They consume very little water and feed per pound of meat in comparison to anything else. They’re one of the few animals that you can consume and not do a ton of damage.
– Many cities are allowing people to raise urban chickens and you can buy urban coops, both for meat and for eggs. So it’s becoming more and more feasible to do this, and I certainly wouldn’t call it a luxury indulgence. And doing this radically reduces the production costs of course.
While I tend to fall on the vegan side of arguments in general, I think in the case of chickens most of the common anti-meat arguments fail. I’m certainly 100% behind Twwly on this.
Quickly addressing a few points:
– Chickens have an incredibly efficient environmental impact. They consume very little water and feed per pound of meat in comparison to anything else. They’re one of the few animals that you can consume and not do a ton of damage.
– Many cities are allowing people to raise urban chickens and you can buy urban coops, both for meat and for eggs. So it’s becoming more and more feasible to do this, and I certainly wouldn’t call it a luxury indulgence. And doing this radically reduces the production costs of course.
While I tend to fall on the vegan side of arguments in general, I think in the case of chickens most of the common anti-meat arguments fail. I’m certainly 100% behind Twwly on this.
There is a movie titles what the &^&%^ do we know? Its a laymens movie on quantam physics there is a scene that shows images taken by a photgrapher who labeled differant watter bottles with differant tags love,hate etc. and photgraphed the watter molcules using a specail type of photgrapghy, the love looked like a crtayline snow flake while the moolocules from hate came out distorted and broken down looking. Most of todays meat is produced by keeping and treating the animals in amost inhumane way that casues pain and suffering form the monat the open thier eyes into this world. which I feel causes us to consume emtionally tainted meat products which then transfres into our own being .. Even if someone wants to eat meat and really dosnt care if teh animals suffer for it inthe very least they might want to consider the after effect that it has on thier own universal world…
http://members.fortunecity.com/ricardo005/Ricardo4you/id5.html
There is a movie titles what the &^&%^ do we know? Its a laymens movie on quantam physics there is a scene that shows images taken by a photgrapher who labeled differant watter bottles with differant tags love,hate etc. and photgraphed the watter molcules using a specail type of photgrapghy, the love looked like a crtayline snow flake while the moolocules from hate came out distorted and broken down looking. Most of todays meat is produced by keeping and treating the animals in amost inhumane way that casues pain and suffering form the monat the open thier eyes into this world. which I feel causes us to consume emtionally tainted meat products which then transfres into our own being .. Even if someone wants to eat meat and really dosnt care if teh animals suffer for it inthe very least they might want to consider the after effect that it has on thier own universal world…
http://members.fortunecity.com/ricardo005/Ricardo4you/id5.html
I absolutely believe in the “If you couldn’t kill it, you shouldn’t eat it” quote from the website.
I absolutely believe in the “If you couldn’t kill it, you shouldn’t eat it” quote from the website.
Thats a really great tattoo, but cut your toe nails sucka!
Thats a really great tattoo, but cut your toe nails sucka!
>>>“If you couldn’t kill it, you shouldn’t eat it” quote from the website.
And do you apply that to the infirm, the elderly, disabled, poor, young, busy? Should they be forced into vegetarianisn because they are incapable of either keeping, nurturing, feeding, providing for, then killing their own meat?
Of course not.
How many here have their own farms or even have the facility to keep chickens? How many of us have local town farms hold chickens for us or even have the time or inclination to raise chickens or any other livestock?
Let’s guess at less than 1% at maximum. Now imagine you have to feed the city of New York on meat from a city farm, how long would you believe it would take you to satisfy one day’s meat eating?
The world NEEDS intensive farming to survive, that I’m afraid is a cold hard fact and no amount of morally superior stance taking at adopting a farming method attuned to a controlled, small community will change that.
>>>“If you couldn’t kill it, you shouldn’t eat it” quote from the website.
And do you apply that to the infirm, the elderly, disabled, poor, young, busy? Should they be forced into vegetarianisn because they are incapable of either keeping, nurturing, feeding, providing for, then killing their own meat?
Of course not.
How many here have their own farms or even have the facility to keep chickens? How many of us have local town farms hold chickens for us or even have the time or inclination to raise chickens or any other livestock?
Let’s guess at less than 1% at maximum. Now imagine you have to feed the city of New York on meat from a city farm, how long would you believe it would take you to satisfy one day’s meat eating?
The world NEEDS intensive farming to survive, that I’m afraid is a cold hard fact and no amount of morally superior stance taking at adopting a farming method attuned to a controlled, small community will change that.
Bradly, there is no need to be so forceful about this.
Thereisnt much i dislike more than “extremists” in any debate. My opinions are based around the fact that as a species we are designed to eat meat. However, I dont start on vegetarians, or vegans for not wanting to. Its entirely opinionated. In actual fact, I have respect for most vegans, because of the strength a personality requires to take on such a lifestyle.
I just hate it when certain vegetarians or vegans try and have this “moral highground”. The have a seperate opinion, that doesn’t mean they are any better than myself. I also dislike people making fun of vegans etc for their choices, but hey.
I like meat. I wouldnt ever decide to stop eating meat based products, i dont see why that would make me stupid, and you know that what I said in #20 was just an exagerated term….
Bradly, there is no need to be so forceful about this.
Thereisnt much i dislike more than “extremists” in any debate. My opinions are based around the fact that as a species we are designed to eat meat. However, I dont start on vegetarians, or vegans for not wanting to. Its entirely opinionated. In actual fact, I have respect for most vegans, because of the strength a personality requires to take on such a lifestyle.
I just hate it when certain vegetarians or vegans try and have this “moral highground”. The have a seperate opinion, that doesn’t mean they are any better than myself. I also dislike people making fun of vegans etc for their choices, but hey.
I like meat. I wouldnt ever decide to stop eating meat based products, i dont see why that would make me stupid, and you know that what I said in #20 was just an exagerated term….
Giles –
1. Chickens can be broadly raised in an urban environment, and DIY chicken coops are very successful products. Basically you eat your pets I suppose.
2. “Intensive” large-scale farming produces less meat/food per acre than small farms, and, yes, backyard coops as well. Farming of this type also has a much smaller profit margin, and replaces farmers with mechanization… It only works because it fits the corporate model perfectly.
Giles –
1. Chickens can be broadly raised in an urban environment, and DIY chicken coops are very successful products. Basically you eat your pets I suppose.
2. “Intensive” large-scale farming produces less meat/food per acre than small farms, and, yes, backyard coops as well. Farming of this type also has a much smaller profit margin, and replaces farmers with mechanization… It only works because it fits the corporate model perfectly.
normally i’d prefer to eat vegetarian (it’s hard being broke and under someone else’s roof), but in this case i’m with twwly. if you raise it humanely and kill it yourself, you should probably eat it.
i got totally grossed out by the “guts” picture. wouldn’t they be bloodier? or was it all washed off? bmezine is making my blood tolerance go way up and my everything else tolerance go way down.
normally i’d prefer to eat vegetarian (it’s hard being broke and under someone else’s roof), but in this case i’m with twwly. if you raise it humanely and kill it yourself, you should probably eat it.
i got totally grossed out by the “guts” picture. wouldn’t they be bloodier? or was it all washed off? bmezine is making my blood tolerance go way up and my everything else tolerance go way down.
I’m a vegan, and I had no problem looking at those pictures. Those chickens were lovingly raised, killed with as much compassion as possible, and i’m sure were eaten with respect. Now, even if I raised chickens I wouldn’t eat them, but that doesn’t mean I can’t respect people who recognize how appalling factory farming is. Not everyone is going to stop eating meat, i’d rather people do it this way then bury their head in the sand and continue eating cruelty and hormone laced meats.
I’m a vegan, and I had no problem looking at those pictures. Those chickens were lovingly raised, killed with as much compassion as possible, and i’m sure were eaten with respect. Now, even if I raised chickens I wouldn’t eat them, but that doesn’t mean I can’t respect people who recognize how appalling factory farming is. Not everyone is going to stop eating meat, i’d rather people do it this way then bury their head in the sand and continue eating cruelty and hormone laced meats.
Shannon – 2. “Intensive” large-scale farming produces less meat/food per acre than small farms, and, yes, backyard coops as well. Farming of this type also has a much smaller profit margin, and replaces farmers with mechanization… It only works because it fits the corporate model perfectly.
Are you quite sure of your sources for this information?
Whilst I prefer free range animal breeding the facts presented show that outdoor farming methods often incur greater morbidity rates (weather related, worms, predatory attacks), need for larger premises to allow free running, more need for skilled staff.
Intensive farming may well be less of an ethically sound way of production but it does produce larger quantities of produce at a fraction of the cost for a population that demands more for less.
I would be very suprised if farmers chose a mechanised over traditional method that delivered less output for a larger budget .
Shannon – 2. “Intensive” large-scale farming produces less meat/food per acre than small farms, and, yes, backyard coops as well. Farming of this type also has a much smaller profit margin, and replaces farmers with mechanization… It only works because it fits the corporate model perfectly.
Are you quite sure of your sources for this information?
Whilst I prefer free range animal breeding the facts presented show that outdoor farming methods often incur greater morbidity rates (weather related, worms, predatory attacks), need for larger premises to allow free running, more need for skilled staff.
Intensive farming may well be less of an ethically sound way of production but it does produce larger quantities of produce at a fraction of the cost for a population that demands more for less.
I would be very suprised if farmers chose a mechanised over traditional method that delivered less output for a larger budget .
the human race is still evolved enough nowadays to be able to feed itself without having to do such cruel things.
the human race is still evolved enough nowadays to be able to feed itself without having to do such cruel things.
Giles – Yup, I’m 100% sure about that info (outside of current sociopolitical awareness, I grew up on an organic farm)…
Giles – Yup, I’m 100% sure about that info (outside of current sociopolitical awareness, I grew up on an organic farm)…
31.
Seriously? The pictures on Twwly’s page are _far_ from graphic, are reasonably educational, aren’t ‘making fun’ of the chicken in any way.
I fail to see how Twwly is either a “fucking retard” or a “douchebag”. I would chalk it up to you being an animal rights activist and a vegan, according to your IAM page, but plenty of people who are animal rights activists and vegans have commented with reasonable and constructive criticism.
Hell, I would say Twwly is even an animal rights activist. She has gone beyond what most people do to educate themselves about food. She knows exactly where her food has come from, and what it has gone through to get there. It looks like it lead a happy and healthy life.
31.
Seriously? The pictures on Twwly’s page are _far_ from graphic, are reasonably educational, aren’t ‘making fun’ of the chicken in any way.
I fail to see how Twwly is either a “fucking retard” or a “douchebag”. I would chalk it up to you being an animal rights activist and a vegan, according to your IAM page, but plenty of people who are animal rights activists and vegans have commented with reasonable and constructive criticism.
Hell, I would say Twwly is even an animal rights activist. She has gone beyond what most people do to educate themselves about food. She knows exactly where her food has come from, and what it has gone through to get there. It looks like it lead a happy and healthy life.
RE – My last post –
Replace Twwly with Tim Kern. I thought the tattoo was on the other person!
RE – My last post –
Replace Twwly with Tim Kern. I thought the tattoo was on the other person!
44: Just because we don’t have to doesn’t mean we shouldn’t. No offence to vegans or vegetarians, but humans are omnivores. We are designed to eat other creatures. While we eat much more meat than most of our primitive counterparts, not eating meat is not natural. If we weren’t supposed to eat meat we wouldn’t be able to digest it. And there’s nothing cruel about killing if it is done in the correct spirit. Which this was.
44: Just because we don’t have to doesn’t mean we shouldn’t. No offence to vegans or vegetarians, but humans are omnivores. We are designed to eat other creatures. While we eat much more meat than most of our primitive counterparts, not eating meat is not natural. If we weren’t supposed to eat meat we wouldn’t be able to digest it. And there’s nothing cruel about killing if it is done in the correct spirit. Which this was.
Dorian – I’d argue humans are designed/evolved to eat a vegan diet with supplementation of game meat… a la the Paleolithic Diet and so on. The only genetic change we’ve had since then is the ability to digest milk.
Dorian – I’d argue humans are designed/evolved to eat a vegan diet with supplementation of game meat… a la the Paleolithic Diet and so on. The only genetic change we’ve had since then is the ability to digest milk.
…and obviously #31 is a kid that’s a bit too aggressive on promoting a vegan ethic and ended up looking like a knee-jerk fool in the process rather than getting her valid point across. Heart in the right place, brain in the wrong place. Having been there myself, I think it’ll work out in a few years. 😉
…and obviously #31 is a kid that’s a bit too aggressive on promoting a vegan ethic and ended up looking like a knee-jerk fool in the process rather than getting her valid point across. Heart in the right place, brain in the wrong place. Having been there myself, I think it’ll work out in a few years. 😉