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127 responses to “Lost (and Tattooed) Dog :(”
43 – Getting shots is neccessary. Tattooing a fucking hello kitty? not so much
If it’s not your dog, shut the fuck up. Your opinions are just that, opinions. Not everyone’s is going to be the same and no one is going to change their stance on a subject from anything you say. Don’t worry about anyone else’s life except your own. Don’t try to push your morals on someone else, there’s enough of that with religion.
I don’t care either way that the dog was tattooed because the dog wasn’t mine. I have never/will never tattoo any of my animals but that doesn’t change my stance on leave this person the fuck alone unless you’re helping to find the dog.
I hope for a safe return.
Good to know you’re apathetic about animal abuse.
I didn’t ask my dog’s permission to get spayed, either! Oh no!
#40
I’m not sure how you can justify or compare your itching to your dog’s unless you’ve entered his/her mind.
Just because it doesn’t scratch 24/7 does not mean it’s not itching.
Anyway, I think that’s my lot for now.
I honestly do hope the dog is found, but maybe give it a bone or something rather than a welcome home tattoo.
beg pardon? was that an assholery comment?
you think it’s not possible to tell how much your dog itches by the way he/she reacts when you scratch it? and how does one justisfy itching?
All I was saying is that you can’t know what your dog is feeling or the degree of their pain/itching unless you enter their mind.
Just a matter of subjectivity.
Not being as asshole at all.
well my basis for comparison was i had next to no itch. when i scratched his implant site he about fell over from leaning into it so hard. when i stopped scratching him he kept putting his shoulderblades under my hand. he doesn’t even beg for scratching that much with flea or mosquito bites. he continued to be that itchy for weeks afterwards.
I hope that the people reacting with anger to a dog with a tattoo realise that it’s cruel to keep a dog in the first place, unless you have a load of other dogs to keep it company and several acres of land for it to run around on… I bet a lot of you say you love your pets, while keeping them in an apartment and taking them for walks from time to time.
Compared to the fact that the whole concept of keeping a dog as a pet is flawed… its adornment is not that important.
(I do have pets, but they are of species whose needs I can provide for.)
Try tattooing a dog without it being under anaesthetic and see how far you go. That will tell you how much it would like it.
Tattooing dogs is for fuckwits with no brains. This dog is better off where it is.
hey alot of dogs are tattooed with id numbers for if they get lost. its not that big of deal. three of my dogs are. its just one way to identify valuable dogs
high five to Giles!!
no five to anyone who thinks this garbage is just A-OKAY!
Sure, Giles. That dog’s better off cold, hungry, and alone, lost in an alley somewhere, than it would be at home, where it is loved, fed, and cared for. It is better off because of the heinous abuse of a one-inch tattoo that will help people to identify it– and is being used EXPLICITLY AS SUCH– when it is found.
MBL-
Your line of reasoning is faulty. If the dog is indeed alone in an alley, no one is there to even use this tattoo to identify the dog. Evoking an emotional response using such dismal imagery isn’t helping your cause.
If someone found the dog, I sincerely doubt the tattoo will make a difference to staff when it is brought to a shelter (if the owner couldn’t be contacted directly via information on the collar tags). Nor would the lack of an identification tattoo deter anyone who wasn’t already going to help the dog. Anyone that has functioning eyeballs would be able to identify this dog, without the needless tattoo.
Big respect to all the true animal lovers and consenting bod modders on the list.
You know who you are.
To people whining about the dog being tattooed:
If you either own an animal and have other animals killed to feed to it (or support it), or eat animals, you’re doing something significantly worse. Murder is worse than tattooing in my opinion.
Also, why is a “hello kitty” tattoo somehow “worse” than a numeric identification tattoo or an RFID implant, etc?
Also, how is this worse than tail docking, ear work, and so on?
Hell, how is this worse than drinking milk (which involves the systematic enslavement, torture, and eventually murder of animals)?
Seriously, unless you’re a RADICAL VEGAN (in which case you’re justified), it’s asinine to complain about the tattoo in my opinion. We live in a culture that has no problem with mass slaughter and enslavement of animals. A tattoo on the dog of a loving (misguided or not) owner is really a complete non-issue.
Y’know, I know some animal rights people who are actually pretty bright. Where are they, do you think?
If the dog is alone in an alley, it is NOT AT HOME ASLEEP ON THE COUCH, Ro. Giles and, presumably, you, find homelessness preferable to enduring the horrifying abuse of an *itchy tattoo.* Giles has flat-out stated that the dog is better off where it is.
You don’t think the tattoo would make a difference? The poster says “dog with a tattoo.” It’s an identifier that cannot be lost and does not require specialized technology (like a chip reader) to decode. Hello Kitty tattoo= my dog.
Giles, who considers himself a “true animal lover,” would apparently like to see the dog picked up by animal control and put to sleep rather than be ITCHY FOR A WEEK OR TWO.
The word “idiot” really isn’t strong enough.
Dude, just because some things are “more wrong” than others (which is completely subjective anyways), doesn’t make something else right. No one can be 100% perfectly animal cruelty free, but this was a very deliberate, calculated action taken by the owner to get their dog a hello kitty tattoo.
This particular owner isn’t the WORST owner the dog could have, but their behavior is NOT responsible and EXTREMELY selfish. I do hope that the dog is found and well taken care of, by anyone who can take proper, responsible and unselfish care of her.
Aside from the ethical questions animal tattooing raised earlier, a “hello kitty” tattoo is an utter waste. It’s not a specific number and it can’t be linked to national registry of any sort. So on the off chance that animal control does pick up the dog and it has miraculously lost all collar tags, the shelter has absolutely no way to track down this dog’s owner. The argument that this tattoo will help to track down the owner is absurd.
…which would be a problem, if I were claiming that the tattoo would help find the owner. Do work on your reading comprehension.
There is no such thing as “unselfish” care of pets. They’re pets…thats a selfish act in its own, is it not? And why did this all even continue past Shannon’s post? That should have been the end of it!
I hope you find your dog, I got really scared and upset when mine was hiding under the shed and I couldn’t find her.
“Also, how is this worse than tail docking, ear work, and so on?”
YES that’s wrong TOO, doesn’t mean you got to do any of it either.
MBL-
You’ve said nothing more than claiming it was an identifying mark. The tattoo would be of no additional value to a shelter worker, veterinary office, or person on the street than comparing the appearance of fur coloration or breed of the missing dog to a description. I’ve worked in the field, it’s not going to make a difference.
Bri – it IS selfish to keep pets, but the selfishness is elevated when they are used as a fashion accessory.
and what the fuck are you talking about the conversation should be over?
MBL – Giles, who considers himself a “true animal lover,” would apparently like to see the dog picked up by animal control and put to sleep rather than be ITCHY FOR A WEEK OR TWO.
Those are your words MBL not mine.
I would prefer the dog to be with a loving owner who did not use it as a bodmod experiment whilst it is asleep.
The Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals are quite against such practices as tail docking, ear work etc as am I .
They say thought that chipping animals is an extremely helpful way in controlling animal’s safety in a world where they are used as currency by some and seemingly as canvasses by others.
The point isn’t that chipping is an extremely helpful way in finding or identifying a dog, the point is that the pain caused by a tattoo is no worse than the pain caused by a microchip. (which, as I have stated, are not normally injected under sedation, but while the dog is fully awake) It’s no worse than the pain of recovering from (our elective for them without their consent) sterilization.
For a breed that is commonly stolen, a unique identifier is a plus. Microchips can be removed, they can also be rejected if improperly implanted. It’s fairly easy for you to tell the police that your dog is the one with the “hello kitty” tattoo, and they can’t argue with that.
So unless you are against spaying and neutering on the same grounds, not the animal’s choice, and (as someone said) a raving vegan, then you have room to talk. Otherwise, just wish the dog the best and leave it at that. Quit thinking you’re better than everyone else because of your “obvious” superiority in animal welfare, you’re not! Compared to what I have seen and dealt with in my years with the local humane society, I just wish the worst thing those dogs ever suffered was a tattoo under sedation…
Missme – You seem to be drastically missing the point here and that is that the owner had the tattoo done for purely aestethic and selfish reasons and not for identification. The RSPCA specifically states that the best method to ensure your dog can be traced if lost is through chipping and not through having cartoon images tattooed on them whilst they are under sedation. If you have opposing evidence then please prodce it.
Spaying and neuturing (along with RFID placement) are extremely helpful ways of controlling the growing numbers of pets left to rot in the wild, abandoned by their owners. These methods are not there to satisfy their owners artistic loves but to help the dog population as a whole.
Tattooing a dog is wrong and this owner will be reported to the authorities as is the right thing to do.
Giles i can only assume you are a vegan.. correct?? and a very strict one at that?
if not then please just shut up…
and read shannons comment.. #66
I have read Shannons comment and frankly it is a shame he feels that way. Neither am I a strict vegan. There is no need for me to be to acknowledge the clear abuse of an animal for the narrow minded fun of their owner.
If you cannot see the very clear and obvious documented differences between animals used for food and animals abused for art then you really shouldn’t be here.
If you defend the belief that it is ok to tattoo a non consenting animal then you are part and parcel of a backward society where ignorance rules.
Next you’ll be claiming some artistic merit to a guy being suspended while high on dope…… oh !!!
Is it any wonder that certain elements of the bodmod community are not taken seriously by the rest of society when most can’t even come to intelligent subjective critique of it themselves. It makes you wonder whether anyone here has even read Brain’s 1979 book The Decorated Body.
what exactly are some of the clear and obvious documented differences between animals murdered and tortured for food and animals abused for art?
It’s heartbreaking when a pet goes missing. I didn’t like the idea of a tattooed dog when I first saw it but, she did say the dog was under anesthetic. Forget the criticism right now, she’s missing her beloved friend. Have a little compassion. I hope Roxxxie’s found soon and that she’s safe.
I’ve never read The Decorated Body. I must be a total philistine – clearly I’m not educated enough for an opinion on the subject. Excuse me while I hang my head in shame.
Anyway, I hope the dog turns up safe and well. It’s heart breaking when pets go missing.
Giles, you silly bitch, your EXACT WORDS are “This dog is better off where it is.” Which is LOST. Do you think dogs consent to RFID identification, or spaying/neutering, or are you and Toser still hoping we forget you said that, too?
Idiots.
Giles, you really think a single nonconsensual tattoo (and a long lifetime of good care and love) is WORSE than being tortured, murdered, and eaten? (And feel free to leave out “being tortured” and replace it with “having short lifetime of love and good care”).
Aww, I hope you find her!!
Ro,
No, they won’t know from the tattoo how to contact the owner, but most likely anyone who sees the tattoo will remember it. And if she’s found locally, it’s likely that someone who has seen it will also see one of the flyers. Furthermore, should someone find her and decide to keep her, the tattoo is a difficult-to-erase mark that would identify the dog as being his. All responsible dog owners get a registered number tattooed on an animal or a microchip, but both of these have their limitations. Personally, I think once Roxxxie is returned home, she should also get one or the other done. I’m not recommending that everyone go out and get custom tattoos done on their pets, but I do believe the owner’s heart was in the right place.
And shame on everyone who thinks she’s better off lost than at home with her owner.
Shannon – Giles, you really think a single nonconsensual tattoo (and a long lifetime of good care and love) is WORSE than being tortured, murdered, and eaten? (And feel free to leave out “being tortured” and replace it with “having short lifetime of love and good care”).
Firstly there is no evidence to show that the dog has had a lifetime of good care and love, in fact the only evidence on show is that the dog has clearly chosen to abandon it’s owner and that it’s owner decided to mark it for life whilst it was asleep against its will.
Secondly animals are (whether you like it or not) part of a huge chain which involves their regular murder and consumption. This is neither specific or limited to humans but necessary across the entire animal kingdom for it to survive.
Thirdly the moment you tolerate this act against a non consenting animal you open the floodgates for others to do the same and the consequences will inevitably be disastrous.
We live in a society where stupidity and ignorance rule. If you accept this small tattoo on a non-consenting animal then you give the green light for larger and more damaging acts in the future.
MBL – Giles, you silly bitch, your EXACT WORDS are “This dog is better off where it is.” Which is LOST. Do you think dogs consent to RFID identification, or spaying/neutering,
Had the dog had RFID ID it could be identified and returned to its owner were it to be found ANYWHERE in the US.
As it stands it will only now be returned if someone has seen its poster (i.e. a relatively tiny amount of people).
Quite obviously the tattoo is in no way a better way of ensuring the dog is returned and personally I do believe the dog will be better off not returning to an owner who would abuse its trust in such a way.
You’re right, Giles. All dogs who run away or get lost clearly made the conscious decision to ‘abandon their owners’.
I was just thinking…what if the dog likes the tattoo? I know there’s no way an animal can say no to modification, but there’s also no way he/she can say yes…
Why does everyone assume that animals hate tattoos? Maybe they like modification, too, just like us.
Either way, I hope Roxxxie is found soon.
In my opinion what was done to the dog was wrong. I’m no super vegan, but I don’t think I need to be in order to disagree.
If it had happened in the UK, there would have been a serious uproar, and it would have been taken away from the owner by the RSPCA without a doubt. And I also seriously doubt any registered vet in the UK would allow or tolerate the procedure, and the owners would have been prosecuted anyway.
Perhaps that explains some of the differences in opinion. Animal treatment and cruelty is taken extremely seriously over here. I’m not saying people from different countries don’t care about their pets, of course they do, but there obviously is a huge difference in what we consider as right and wrong when making decisions for our animals.
You are completely correct Hanargh (again) and it is clear that there is indeed a cultural difference between the UK and our US/Canadian sisters.
Even putting aside the issue of animal rights you would hope that some would show disagreement towards non consenting, forced aesthetic tattooing.
Okay, kids, Giles is a troll. The new bit about the dog deciding to abandon “it’s” owner takes the cake.
Plus he still hasn’t dealt with his own contention about whether the dog consented to RFID identification, which he’s been asked a good half-dozen times now, by more people than me.
Let’s leave him alone and maybe he’ll forget where his keyboard is. Or, even better, perhaps it’ll make the conscious decision to disappear.
MBL if you have nothing intelligent to add to this argument then desist contributing. You are clearly not quite up to the level required for adult discussion.
As for consenting RFID placement the point is quite clear. Both vets and societies dedicated to the humane treatment of animals see it as necessary and valuable in tracing legitimate owners. I share the same view.
Shannon – I was just thinking…what if the dog likes the tattoo? I know there’s no way an animal can say no to modification, but there’s also no way he/she can say yes…
The inability to say NO does not automatically mean YES and vice versa. Try tattooing a dog without anaesthesia and see if it stays !!
Giles – I don’t think that saying “murder is the status quo, so we should be ok with that” is really a good way of making your point.
Personally I wouldn’t tattoo a dog. But I also think it’s a little bit of a “no leg to stand on” situation to complain if that person is willing to eat meat.
And to follow up your last post — try eating a cow without death and see if it stays on your plate 🙂
Shannon L – I accept your last point but I stand by the idea that eating meat is something natural rather than social and as such is not something learnt. It is instinctive not just to humans but every omnivorous animal alive
With regards to eating an animal we are talking about a relationship with the animal kingdom that stretches back as far as humans have existed, it has always been there.
These kind of acts will only add to the detriment of the image of the body modification community as seen from outside and I think it is important that they are condemned from within.
^ agree.
So we’ve established, Giles, that animal consent doesn’t actually matter if human beings determine that their will should supercede the animal’s.
Interesting.