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Lost (and Tattooed) Dog 🙁
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127 responses to “Lost (and Tattooed) Dog :(”
Absolutely, MBL. And things that have occured as long as humans have existed, like slavery, are also acceptable.
Laurie, please do me a favor and reread the thread until you understand why what you just said is dumb.
MBL – Giles, that animal consent doesn’t actually matter if human beings determine that their will should supercede the animal’s.
You appear to need to re-read the thread yourself. Animal consent takes second place when the safety of the animal is primarily the motivation for such things as RFID. When the welfare of the animal is the top motivating factor for it being tagged then clearly it is the animal’s best interests.
At no point does having it tattooed illegally fall anywhere close to this.
MBL, please reread my comment until you understand that what I just said was dumb because I was using Giles’ logic.
Laurie your comment was dumb because you compared eating meat (a natural occurance to all omnivorous animals) to slavery (a social occurance that took place for around 1000 years.
Your comment Laurie was not only ill-informed but plain wrong. Humans eat meat because we are omnivores by nature (hence the tooth structure, complex stomach acids etc etc).
Comparing slavery to meat eating is not only offensive to those who suffered under slavery but rather a redundant argument.
Has the dog been found yet?
… Oh, and thanks, Shannon, for making the only comment (66) that makes any sense in this thread.
Bit of arse licking there.
I think it’s justified that they lost their dog. I think tattooing an animal is a disgusting act. It is really cruel. If I was the vet I would have called the ASPCA. Really what the fuck is wrong with people?
When I see missing posters for pets, I don’t study them long enough to actually remember them. I don’t think to myself, “tabby cat, three white paws, odd shaped nipple – must remember!” I just think “missing cat – shame,” then forget. Likewise with Jack Russels. They all basically look the same. Why bother?
However, I’m not likely to forget one with a hello kitty tattoo. So if I’m out and about, see a jack russel all alone, I’ll probably think “hey, isn’t there a missing one with a lame tattoo?”
Hence, the tattoo is an identifying feature, and works like three legs, in that it’s a feature that people won’t forget after seeing the missing poster. It’s not about tracing the owners, like a microchip, it’s about making people take notice.
If eating meat is okay because it’s a natural urge, perhaps it’s a natural urge of owners to want to make their pets as visible as possible in case of loss, out of the desire to protect.
—If eating meat is okay because it’s a natural urge, perhaps it’s a natural urge of owners to want to make their pets as visible as possible in case of loss, out of the desire to protect.
By this argument then we should tattoo their faces or paint them different colours.
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But if everyone made their pet as “distinctive” as everyone else, i.e – give them all wacky tattoos – we’d stop taking notice and wouldn’t remember such things, as they’d become minute info.
“Animal consent takes second place when the safety of the animal is primarily the motivation for such things as RFID. When the welfare of the animal is the top motivating factor for it being tagged then clearly it is the animal’s best interests.”
“You seem to be drastically missing the point here and that is that the owner had the tattoo done for purely aestethic and selfish reasons and not for identification.”
Sigh. Giles, please stop making things up. Seriously. You don’t have the VAGUEST IDEA why this person tattooed his dog. The only thing you do know is that the tattoo is being used as a way for people to remember the dog so that they NOTICE IT if they happen to find it.
That’s all you know. It’s the only thing. Everything else you’ve said in this entire thread has been the result of you MAKING UP idiotic bullshit based on no evidence whatsoever, from “the dog is better off where it is” (lost) to “the dog decided to run away” (because no animal, ever, has been separated from its owners unintentionally) to the heinous “abuse” from… well, itching, to the completely, utterly ridiculous consent issue, where it turns out BY YOUR OWN WORDS that animal consent only actually matters when the people involved allow it to– ie, animal consent doesn’t matter AT ALL, and you’re just blowing smoke.
You somehow live in a world where animal consent matters when it doesn’t want to be tattooed, but it doesn’t matter when the animal doesn’t want to be EATEN or MADE INTO SHOES, which are both a considerably greater inconvenience than a tiny tattoo that just might get the dog home again. You’re a very silly person pursuing an intellecutally incoherent argument. Please stop.
You’re right, if all dogs had tattooes it wouldn’t be distinctive. But most dogs aren’t tattooed, and neither am I saying they should. All I’m saying is that in this case, it’s a feature that helps people take notice of the fact that the dog is missing. It doesn’t have to be obvious like bright colours and tattooed faces. The mere act of it having the tattoo makes my brain register that a jack russel is missing, so if I lived in the area and I saw one alone, I’d think “maybe that’s the dog – why don’t I check?”
Whether or not everyone decides to tattoo their pets in the future doesn’t really affect the situation now.
Has Roxxxie been found?
Shannon, please update us on this if you hear further. 🙁
So, in my opinion, tattooing a fucking hello kitty on a dog isn’t right in the slightest bit.. But w/e.. It’s not my dog…
I hope u find her
i can´t understand how people can be so stupid an do this to his dog, i hope u never find her , cos i´m sure that the animal hate u and poor her she don´t wanna be with u
hey
m feeling sorry for the dog but for the owner too…how could u do this to the lil baby???makin a tatoo….thts bad…but yah u r putin ur efforts to find her…so i hope u find her soon..
FRIENDS I NEED A HELP TOO….I KNOW A FAMILY WHO TORTURES THEIR DOG…MY PARENTS ARE NOT ALLOWING ME TO TAKE A STEP MYSELF…I WANNA HELP THE DOG….WHAT SHLD I DO???
Giles…..can an animal consent to being chipped?….no….is it nessecary?….no….can an animal consent to a tattoo?….no….is it nessecary?….no……is it (obviousy) a better form of I.D. then a coller wich can break and a microchip wich takes a 6 Ga NEEDLE jabbing in to an un willing animal while its awake?….uh DUH!!!!……your burning out and re stating yourself OVER and OVER and OVER….give up….your radial views wont win this one like every other one you try and fight!
Tattooing the dog was wrong, yes. But to assume that he’s better off gone solely based on that is absurd.
As a strict vegan, I think I may be the only non-hypocrite in this entire thread.
I think it’s slightly disingenuous to argue that applying a decorative tattoo to a dog is justifiable as long as we continue to slaughter animals for food.
On at least some level it can be argued that slaughtering animals is a necessary evil (I know, I know, we could all be vegan). But, in theory at least, animals that are slaughtered for food undergo as little suffering as humanely possible and are slaughtered to sustain life. I realise that this is frequently not the case — I’ve seen those PETA videos too — but millions of animals are eaten alive by other animals in the wild every day. At least there’s some vestige of natural order being gestured at in killing animals for their meat.
But imposing permanent physical changes on a living animal for decorative purposes?
Shannon asked why a Hello Kitty tattoo is worse than a numeric identification tattoo or an RFID implant. My dog has an alphanumeric tattoo, which was placed on her under anaesthetic when she was neutered. In my view, both procedures (the neutering and the tattooing) were justified in terms of pain/danger vs result.
The tattoo consists of five tiny characters in black, rather than a relatively large, coloured-in image. It was the most minimally invasive, minimally disruptive, minimally painful procedure available at the time, and done for reasons of the dog’s safety, not for my own pleasure. The neutering was done for reasons of population control: as a responsible dog owner, I did not want my dog creating other dogs who would end up in the same situation I rescued her from: born as part of a random mating, abused and ultimately abandoned.
In short, inflicting a certain amount of harm on animals is justifiable when the benefits outweigh the risks and when minimally invasive procedures are used: killing animals for food; tattooing or implanting animals under anaesthesia for reasons of their own safetey; neutering dogs and cats for reasons of population control. But inflicting harm on animals for reasons of human pleasure or entertainment — ear cropping; tail docking; decorative tattoos; branding; piercing — cannot be justified.
This particular tattoo, though it may ultimately assist in locating the dog, is not justifiable when far less physically traumatic methods are available. Most dogs don’t even seem to feel the implantation of RFID tags, for example. At the very least, a simple alphanumeric tattoo would have accomplished the objective of providing identification while sparing the dog the additional physcial stress of the application and healing of a purely decorative image.
What is funny, is how many leave a comment about how wrong it was to tattoo their dog, and how it is animal abuse. But put it this way, anybody who abuses their animal apperantly don’t love them. They are taking their time in finding this poor dog. Not to mention, tattooing a dog is not worse than other ways of making it easy to identify them, such as the micro chips or punching a hole in a sheeps ear for a tag. And, what about declawing your cat, or nutering your animals..? They are asleep while the process is being done, but I promise you they are in alot more pain during the healing process than a little sore spot from a tattoo. And that stupid comment about “the animal can’t give concent”. Shoot yourself for saying that. I pierce little babies everyday, and they don’t give concent. The parent or in the dogs case the OWNER, gave the concent.
Using babies as an example of why it’s fine to pierce or tattoo animals is pretty backwards – plenty of professional piercers (myself included) won’t pierce humans incapable of giving consent, and personally, I quite happily label parents modifying children cosmetically while they are too young to ask for it or agree to it “child abuse”.
Horses (especially racehorses) are tattooed with numbers for identification purposes all the time. On the inside of the upper lip, with a big clampy printing-press-type thing. If the dog was already under anesthesia for another reason (spay, etc), so what? Get over it.
This just goes to show, people can bitch about the most stupidest things.
I for one, wouldnt have picked Hello Kitty. Something cooler. lolz
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