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Smoking Doesn’t Kill People, Marketing Does
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128 responses to “Smoking Doesn’t Kill People, Marketing Does”
Why is the cigarette a big deal at all? It’s so strange that everyone on BME/Modblog are so uptight that they can’t accept someone for an addiction, that’s pretty cool. We’re supposed to be the most accepting people because we know how hard it is to be modified but we always seem to be putting everyone else down for minor things. If you’re the kind of dolt who will berate someone for anything insignificant such as this then you don’t belong in this culture. Also, just because someone close to you died from it doesn’t mean you should push your beliefs onto the world.
Why is the cigarette a big deal at all? It’s so strange that everyone on BME/Modblog are so uptight that they can’t accept someone for an addiction, that’s pretty cool. We’re supposed to be the most accepting people because we know how hard it is to be modified but we always seem to be putting everyone else down for minor things. If you’re the kind of dolt who will berate someone for anything insignificant such as this then you don’t belong in this culture. Also, just because someone close to you died from it doesn’t mean you should push your beliefs onto the world.
Looks folks, I don’t give a rat’s ass if people choose to smoke. I also don’t care if there are pictures of it, here or elsewhere.
What I am bothered by it is glorification and jokes about smoking, and peoples’ choice to smoke. Sure they have the choice. I have the choice to pierce myself or get tattoos too. Just don’t do it next to me, and don’t make jokes about smoking not killing people, because I’m grieving a very recently deceased close family member, killed by smoking and the fucking evil industry that made it happen (as in, she tried from age 20 to age 57 to quit…finally managed it, then it killed her).
It’s not akin to book burning like the moron above pointed out. It’s akin to choosing to shoot oneself in the head, while in a crowd that may be impacted by the bullet.
Looks folks, I don’t give a rat’s ass if people choose to smoke. I also don’t care if there are pictures of it, here or elsewhere.
What I am bothered by it is glorification and jokes about smoking, and peoples’ choice to smoke. Sure they have the choice. I have the choice to pierce myself or get tattoos too. Just don’t do it next to me, and don’t make jokes about smoking not killing people, because I’m grieving a very recently deceased close family member, killed by smoking and the fucking evil industry that made it happen (as in, she tried from age 20 to age 57 to quit…finally managed it, then it killed her).
It’s not akin to book burning like the moron above pointed out. It’s akin to choosing to shoot oneself in the head, while in a crowd that may be impacted by the bullet.
I’m sorry, but people are cruel, and I am sure people will make jokes that you don’t like sometimes. People aren’t going to cater to you and your feelings in the big bad world. There are plenty of jokes I don’t find funny, but I still don’t tell people “That’s not funny because THIS happened to me” because, regardless or not maybe they honestly think it’s funny and it’s their right to think it’s funny.
Just because you’re there doesn’t mean people are going to give a shit. It’s how life works, get over it. Not everyone will spare your feelings just because you had some bad shit happen to you.
The tobacco industry is just like every other industry in the world, they’re out to make money. Do/Have they used some shitty advertising and marketing tactics? Sure they have. Are they evil? Probably. Are they moral? Maybe, Maybe not. Supply and demand. Classic business.
Yes, their product might kill a percentage of it’s users, but YOU have the choice on whether or not to use it. I hate people whining about how the cigarette companies stole their loved ones or they go so far as to SUE the companies – The cigarette didn’t hold a mini-gun to their head and scream “SMOKE ME, SMOKE ME” , they made a choice and when you make a choice you need to be aware of all the outcomes. Yes it’s an addiction but if you truly want to quit, you’ll find a way.
My best friend’s mother died of lung cancer when she was 16, *maybe* from smoking (who knows, other factors besides smoking probably played a role). Does she hate tobacco companies or blame her mother’s death on the “evil” industry? No, I’m sure she wished her mother would have quit or never started, but she also realizes that she made the choice. Does she think cancer jokes are funny? No. Does she think tobacco killing people is funny? Not really. But does she blame a choice her mother made on the tobacco industry? No.
I’m sorry, but people are cruel, and I am sure people will make jokes that you don’t like sometimes. People aren’t going to cater to you and your feelings in the big bad world. There are plenty of jokes I don’t find funny, but I still don’t tell people “That’s not funny because THIS happened to me” because, regardless or not maybe they honestly think it’s funny and it’s their right to think it’s funny.
Just because you’re there doesn’t mean people are going to give a shit. It’s how life works, get over it. Not everyone will spare your feelings just because you had some bad shit happen to you.
The tobacco industry is just like every other industry in the world, they’re out to make money. Do/Have they used some shitty advertising and marketing tactics? Sure they have. Are they evil? Probably. Are they moral? Maybe, Maybe not. Supply and demand. Classic business.
Yes, their product might kill a percentage of it’s users, but YOU have the choice on whether or not to use it. I hate people whining about how the cigarette companies stole their loved ones or they go so far as to SUE the companies – The cigarette didn’t hold a mini-gun to their head and scream “SMOKE ME, SMOKE ME” , they made a choice and when you make a choice you need to be aware of all the outcomes. Yes it’s an addiction but if you truly want to quit, you’ll find a way.
My best friend’s mother died of lung cancer when she was 16, *maybe* from smoking (who knows, other factors besides smoking probably played a role). Does she hate tobacco companies or blame her mother’s death on the “evil” industry? No, I’m sure she wished her mother would have quit or never started, but she also realizes that she made the choice. Does she think cancer jokes are funny? No. Does she think tobacco killing people is funny? Not really. But does she blame a choice her mother made on the tobacco industry? No.
16 – telling people to light up in this situation is not appropriate.
16 – telling people to light up in this situation is not appropriate.
Its everyones own decision if they want to smoke, I use to smoke and took my own decision when to stop.
It is very unlikely in this day and age if a smoker dosnt know the risks they are taking. Every packet has printed across the front ‘smoking kills’.
I have had people close to me die from lung cancer, and yet my grandfather smoked into his 80′s its the luck of the draw. Smokers know the risk they are taking.
Im cool with it unless people smoke around kids forcing them to inhale smoke, or pregnant females smoke, thats a diff matter.
People go off on one about having to care for a sick smoker, I think the government has taken care of these costs the amount of tax charged on each packet.
People also smoke for different reasons, some pure recreational, others need a fag maybe to calm their nerves.
So, each to their own.
Its everyones own decision if they want to smoke, I use to smoke and took my own decision when to stop.
It is very unlikely in this day and age if a smoker dosnt know the risks they are taking. Every packet has printed across the front ‘smoking kills’.
I have had people close to me die from lung cancer, and yet my grandfather smoked into his 80′s its the luck of the draw. Smokers know the risk they are taking.
Im cool with it unless people smoke around kids forcing them to inhale smoke, or pregnant females smoke, thats a diff matter.
People go off on one about having to care for a sick smoker, I think the government has taken care of these costs the amount of tax charged on each packet.
People also smoke for different reasons, some pure recreational, others need a fag maybe to calm their nerves.
So, each to their own.
why not? I think its just as appropriate as those who are basically telling everyone to take it seriously.
and its “lightEN up” not “light up”. One has to do with smoking the other doesn’t.
and in the remote possibility – puns are not funny.
why not? I think its just as appropriate as those who are basically telling everyone to take it seriously.
and its “lightEN up” not “light up”. One has to do with smoking the other doesn’t.
and in the remote possibility – puns are not funny.
am i the only one that gets the irony of this?
am i the only one that gets the irony of this?
quite a heated debate! I’m sure the person here knows how bad smoking is for you (how can you not?)but the pic looks great anyways!
quite a heated debate! I’m sure the person here knows how bad smoking is for you (how can you not?)but the pic looks great anyways!
smoke (and i guess smoking by default?) always looks gorgeous in photos in my opinion.
smoke (and i guess smoking by default?) always looks gorgeous in photos in my opinion.
Duck – it was a joke. A bloody good one at that 🙂
Duck – it was a joke. A bloody good one at that 🙂
this is ironic. and funny! i couldn’t give a rat’s ass whether he’s got a cigarette or not. it’s his choice, not yours. besides, isn’t doing purposeful damage to yourself for an aesthetic effect or for therapeutic reasons inherently similar to body modification? granted, bod mods don’t do as much internal damage.
in the end… he has a cigarette. oooooooooh no.
this is ironic. and funny! i couldn’t give a rat’s ass whether he’s got a cigarette or not. it’s his choice, not yours. besides, isn’t doing purposeful damage to yourself for an aesthetic effect or for therapeutic reasons inherently similar to body modification? granted, bod mods don’t do as much internal damage.
in the end… he has a cigarette. oooooooooh no.
I think smoking SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whoever does it, is a real butthole!! its kills so many people
I think smoking SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whoever does it, is a real butthole!! its kills so many people
OK, I’ve just been reading some of the amazing comments on this, and I’d just like to say:
Dude, its a cigarette. You can smoke them at 16 (though soon to be 18) and although many people’s philosophy on life is that they don’t want things forced on them, you all appear quite happy to push your biases and personal opinions down everyone else’s throats.
😐
And also, everyone is freaking out over the bloody title. THE TITLE! Not even the main picture, man! So what if this guy smokes? Millions of people smoke! But this guy has fucking shit-hot tattoos. So there.
And also
I saw a guy at a Dead Kennedys gig a couple of years back smoking through a tracheoctomy hole. It was damn funky. Being able to smoke through his throat but still drink and talk ‘normally’. And this guy must have been about 50.
So lay off the smokers, OK?
If you don’t like it, then don’t breathe.
OK, I’ve just been reading some of the amazing comments on this, and I’d just like to say:
Dude, its a cigarette. You can smoke them at 16 (though soon to be 18) and although many people’s philosophy on life is that they don’t want things forced on them, you all appear quite happy to push your biases and personal opinions down everyone else’s throats.
😐
And also, everyone is freaking out over the bloody title. THE TITLE! Not even the main picture, man! So what if this guy smokes? Millions of people smoke! But this guy has fucking shit-hot tattoos. So there.
And also
I saw a guy at a Dead Kennedys gig a couple of years back smoking through a tracheoctomy hole. It was damn funky. Being able to smoke through his throat but still drink and talk ‘normally’. And this guy must have been about 50.
So lay off the smokers, OK?
If you don’t like it, then don’t breathe.
smoking is so cool i got to spend 3 months with my mom bed ridden and in lots of pain .she had lung cancer survived 9 months after she was told she had it .i lost my mom nov 8 2007.
all the chemo ,not being able to do anything for herself coudn,t even play with her grandkids.thats the life i would want oh and i forgot to mention the nightmares i have because i had to watch the cancer eat her alive and i couldnt make her last months comfortable for her.
smoking is so cool i got to spend 3 months with my mom bed ridden and in lots of pain .she had lung cancer survived 9 months after she was told she had it .i lost my mom nov 8 2007.
all the chemo ,not being able to do anything for herself coudn,t even play with her grandkids.thats the life i would want oh and i forgot to mention the nightmares i have because i had to watch the cancer eat her alive and i couldnt make her last months comfortable for her.