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after reading only a few of the comments i have realized that for a comunity that puts on the facad of tolerence we are incredibly judgmental. I do not approve of acts like this but would never tell someone that they are lacking in any way, this was obviusly meant as a joke and as for the comment about “that sounds like something a pedo could have said.. if you replace âanimalsâ? with âchildrenâ?.” that was uncalled for and a low blow regardless of who you where talking about.
keep it up shannon, a jokes a joke!
after reading only a few of the comments i have realized that for a comunity that puts on the facad of tolerence we are incredibly judgmental. I do not approve of acts like this but would never tell someone that they are lacking in any way, this was obviusly meant as a joke and as for the comment about “that sounds like something a pedo could have said.. if you replace âanimalsâ? with âchildrenâ?.” that was uncalled for and a low blow regardless of who you where talking about.
keep it up shannon, a jokes a joke!
after reading only a few of the comments i have realized that for a comunity that puts on the facad of tolerence we are incredibly judgmental. I do not approve of acts like this but would never tell someone that they are lacking in any way, this was obviusly meant as a joke and as for the comment about “that sounds like something a pedo could have said.. if you replace âanimalsâ? with âchildrenâ?.” that was uncalled for and a low blow regardless of who you where talking about.
keep it up shannon, a jokes a joke!
after reading only a few of the comments i have realized that for a comunity that puts on the facad of tolerence we are incredibly judgmental. I do not approve of acts like this but would never tell someone that they are lacking in any way, this was obviusly meant as a joke and as for the comment about “that sounds like something a pedo could have said.. if you replace âanimalsâ? with âchildrenâ?.” that was uncalled for and a low blow regardless of who you where talking about.
keep it up shannon, a jokes a joke!
vet student – I think that’s a relatively well balanced response, but I think you are making a case that it comes down to morals with a male penetrative animal, rather than an issue of harm.
vet student – I think that’s a relatively well balanced response, but I think you are making a case that it comes down to morals with a male penetrative animal, rather than an issue of harm.
vet student – I think that’s a relatively well balanced response, but I think you are making a case that it comes down to morals with a male penetrative animal, rather than an issue of harm.
vet student – I think that’s a relatively well balanced response, but I think you are making a case that it comes down to morals with a male penetrative animal, rather than an issue of harm.
That is essentially the argument I’m trying to make, yes — I aknowledge that your argument that male animals MAY enjoy and initiate interspecial penetrative intercourse could potentially be true — this has not been scientifically proven one way or the other. I did research in animal welfare and behaviour before entering veterinary school; we have the ability to study animal behaviours very proficiently now, but we are still very bad at determining exactly what they mean. Most animals exhibiting these behaviours (canine “stud farms” etc) have been trained to do so, and this phenomenon isn’t something seen very often outside that setting, at least in the veterinary literature (or else there would be a lot more case reports about intact male dogs trying to mate their female owners — not just “humping thier leg”, which as mentioned in previous posts is actually a dominance behaviour rather than a sexual one); thus, you could argue that this is simply a training/positive enforcement behaviour rather than something innately pleasurable to the animal that it would have initiated of its own free will. The occasional report of wild animals initiating intercourse with other species could potentially challenge this, but this behaviour is quite rare and seen most often in “higher species” than our domestic animals (primates and dolphins mostly).
I personally am morally against any sort of bestiality, but that’s simply my personal opinion and I’m not going to shove it down anyone’s throat (tolerant environment on BME and all that). However, I had issue with a number of statements being made above implying that bestiality has no potential negative effects on animals, such as:
“Holding a screaming animal down? Give me a break. Most of the time the animals are just as into it as the people, and many animals that live in interspecies homes INITIATE the sexual contact.”
To me, this implies that the majority of animals are “into” interspecies sex and that it’s not a potentially tramatizing experience for them at all. That is most certainly not true in the case of nonestrous females and rectal penetration in both sexes, and I think it important people be made aware of the potential deterimental effects that could result (excluding the whole moral argument aspect of the issue). From a veterinary standpoint, any sort of anal penetration (and even vaginal if you’re not careful) can certainly cause physical trauma, and potentially mental — it is not an innocous practice, and carries real physical risks for the animal. With regards to the moral argument: we have no way of knowing what animals are actually feeling, but if you choose to interpret “happy looking” male animals penetrating humans as enjoying that behaviour, it’s equally valid to interpret the fearful escape behaviours exhibited by virtually all animals underoing rectal examinations and vaginal examinations while not in estrus as having an unpleasant experience.
(Now I REALLY need to get back to studying for my large animal medicine midterm tomorrow! :P)
That is essentially the argument I’m trying to make, yes — I aknowledge that your argument that male animals MAY enjoy and initiate interspecial penetrative intercourse could potentially be true — this has not been scientifically proven one way or the other. I did research in animal welfare and behaviour before entering veterinary school; we have the ability to study animal behaviours very proficiently now, but we are still very bad at determining exactly what they mean. Most animals exhibiting these behaviours (canine “stud farms” etc) have been trained to do so, and this phenomenon isn’t something seen very often outside that setting, at least in the veterinary literature (or else there would be a lot more case reports about intact male dogs trying to mate their female owners — not just “humping thier leg”, which as mentioned in previous posts is actually a dominance behaviour rather than a sexual one); thus, you could argue that this is simply a training/positive enforcement behaviour rather than something innately pleasurable to the animal that it would have initiated of its own free will. The occasional report of wild animals initiating intercourse with other species could potentially challenge this, but this behaviour is quite rare and seen most often in “higher species” than our domestic animals (primates and dolphins mostly).
I personally am morally against any sort of bestiality, but that’s simply my personal opinion and I’m not going to shove it down anyone’s throat (tolerant environment on BME and all that). However, I had issue with a number of statements being made above implying that bestiality has no potential negative effects on animals, such as:
“Holding a screaming animal down? Give me a break. Most of the time the animals are just as into it as the people, and many animals that live in interspecies homes INITIATE the sexual contact.”
To me, this implies that the majority of animals are “into” interspecies sex and that it’s not a potentially tramatizing experience for them at all. That is most certainly not true in the case of nonestrous females and rectal penetration in both sexes, and I think it important people be made aware of the potential deterimental effects that could result (excluding the whole moral argument aspect of the issue). From a veterinary standpoint, any sort of anal penetration (and even vaginal if you’re not careful) can certainly cause physical trauma, and potentially mental — it is not an innocous practice, and carries real physical risks for the animal. With regards to the moral argument: we have no way of knowing what animals are actually feeling, but if you choose to interpret “happy looking” male animals penetrating humans as enjoying that behaviour, it’s equally valid to interpret the fearful escape behaviours exhibited by virtually all animals underoing rectal examinations and vaginal examinations while not in estrus as having an unpleasant experience.
(Now I REALLY need to get back to studying for my large animal medicine midterm tomorrow! :P)
That is essentially the argument I’m trying to make, yes — I aknowledge that your argument that male animals MAY enjoy and initiate interspecial penetrative intercourse could potentially be true — this has not been scientifically proven one way or the other. I did research in animal welfare and behaviour before entering veterinary school; we have the ability to study animal behaviours very proficiently now, but we are still very bad at determining exactly what they mean. Most animals exhibiting these behaviours (canine “stud farms” etc) have been trained to do so, and this phenomenon isn’t something seen very often outside that setting, at least in the veterinary literature (or else there would be a lot more case reports about intact male dogs trying to mate their female owners — not just “humping thier leg”, which as mentioned in previous posts is actually a dominance behaviour rather than a sexual one); thus, you could argue that this is simply a training/positive enforcement behaviour rather than something innately pleasurable to the animal that it would have initiated of its own free will. The occasional report of wild animals initiating intercourse with other species could potentially challenge this, but this behaviour is quite rare and seen most often in “higher species” than our domestic animals (primates and dolphins mostly).
I personally am morally against any sort of bestiality, but that’s simply my personal opinion and I’m not going to shove it down anyone’s throat (tolerant environment on BME and all that). However, I had issue with a number of statements being made above implying that bestiality has no potential negative effects on animals, such as:
“Holding a screaming animal down? Give me a break. Most of the time the animals are just as into it as the people, and many animals that live in interspecies homes INITIATE the sexual contact.”
To me, this implies that the majority of animals are “into” interspecies sex and that it’s not a potentially tramatizing experience for them at all. That is most certainly not true in the case of nonestrous females and rectal penetration in both sexes, and I think it important people be made aware of the potential deterimental effects that could result (excluding the whole moral argument aspect of the issue). From a veterinary standpoint, any sort of anal penetration (and even vaginal if you’re not careful) can certainly cause physical trauma, and potentially mental — it is not an innocous practice, and carries real physical risks for the animal. With regards to the moral argument: we have no way of knowing what animals are actually feeling, but if you choose to interpret “happy looking” male animals penetrating humans as enjoying that behaviour, it’s equally valid to interpret the fearful escape behaviours exhibited by virtually all animals underoing rectal examinations and vaginal examinations while not in estrus as having an unpleasant experience.
(Now I REALLY need to get back to studying for my large animal medicine midterm tomorrow! :P)
That is essentially the argument I’m trying to make, yes — I aknowledge that your argument that male animals MAY enjoy and initiate interspecial penetrative intercourse could potentially be true — this has not been scientifically proven one way or the other. I did research in animal welfare and behaviour before entering veterinary school; we have the ability to study animal behaviours very proficiently now, but we are still very bad at determining exactly what they mean. Most animals exhibiting these behaviours (canine “stud farms” etc) have been trained to do so, and this phenomenon isn’t something seen very often outside that setting, at least in the veterinary literature (or else there would be a lot more case reports about intact male dogs trying to mate their female owners — not just “humping thier leg”, which as mentioned in previous posts is actually a dominance behaviour rather than a sexual one); thus, you could argue that this is simply a training/positive enforcement behaviour rather than something innately pleasurable to the animal that it would have initiated of its own free will. The occasional report of wild animals initiating intercourse with other species could potentially challenge this, but this behaviour is quite rare and seen most often in “higher species” than our domestic animals (primates and dolphins mostly).
I personally am morally against any sort of bestiality, but that’s simply my personal opinion and I’m not going to shove it down anyone’s throat (tolerant environment on BME and all that). However, I had issue with a number of statements being made above implying that bestiality has no potential negative effects on animals, such as:
“Holding a screaming animal down? Give me a break. Most of the time the animals are just as into it as the people, and many animals that live in interspecies homes INITIATE the sexual contact.”
To me, this implies that the majority of animals are “into” interspecies sex and that it’s not a potentially tramatizing experience for them at all. That is most certainly not true in the case of nonestrous females and rectal penetration in both sexes, and I think it important people be made aware of the potential deterimental effects that could result (excluding the whole moral argument aspect of the issue). From a veterinary standpoint, any sort of anal penetration (and even vaginal if you’re not careful) can certainly cause physical trauma, and potentially mental — it is not an innocous practice, and carries real physical risks for the animal. With regards to the moral argument: we have no way of knowing what animals are actually feeling, but if you choose to interpret “happy looking” male animals penetrating humans as enjoying that behaviour, it’s equally valid to interpret the fearful escape behaviours exhibited by virtually all animals underoing rectal examinations and vaginal examinations while not in estrus as having an unpleasant experience.
(Now I REALLY need to get back to studying for my large animal medicine midterm tomorrow! :P)
vet student- I am glad vets get so much experience with this now knowing how fragile the area can be. I will never forget the look on my old toy poodle’s face when our vet stuck his finger up there because I thought she had some blockage (turns out she couldn’t poop ’cause of back pain). She definetly did not enjoy that, her eyes got all wide and she started to scramble, then gave me this defeated shameful look.
vet student- I am glad vets get so much experience with this now knowing how fragile the area can be. I will never forget the look on my old toy poodle’s face when our vet stuck his finger up there because I thought she had some blockage (turns out she couldn’t poop ’cause of back pain). She definetly did not enjoy that, her eyes got all wide and she started to scramble, then gave me this defeated shameful look.
vet student- I am glad vets get so much experience with this now knowing how fragile the area can be. I will never forget the look on my old toy poodle’s face when our vet stuck his finger up there because I thought she had some blockage (turns out she couldn’t poop ’cause of back pain). She definetly did not enjoy that, her eyes got all wide and she started to scramble, then gave me this defeated shameful look.
vet student- I am glad vets get so much experience with this now knowing how fragile the area can be. I will never forget the look on my old toy poodle’s face when our vet stuck his finger up there because I thought she had some blockage (turns out she couldn’t poop ’cause of back pain). She definetly did not enjoy that, her eyes got all wide and she started to scramble, then gave me this defeated shameful look.
Oh and I personally don’t find bestiality funny (even if it’s fake). That falls out of my PERSONAL taste of humor and we are all entitled to one. However, it has gone from “fucking” a live goat to beating a dead horse…let it go already. It amazes me however that after well over 100 posts that there are still people that are commenting on how this picture is real. A simple skimming and an ounce of common sense will tell you otherwise. If I see another one of those inevitable comments I just don’t know what I’ll do
Oh and I personally don’t find bestiality funny (even if it’s fake). That falls out of my PERSONAL taste of humor and we are all entitled to one. However, it has gone from “fucking” a live goat to beating a dead horse…let it go already. It amazes me however that after well over 100 posts that there are still people that are commenting on how this picture is real. A simple skimming and an ounce of common sense will tell you otherwise. If I see another one of those inevitable comments I just don’t know what I’ll do
Oh and I personally don’t find bestiality funny (even if it’s fake). That falls out of my PERSONAL taste of humor and we are all entitled to one. However, it has gone from “fucking” a live goat to beating a dead horse…let it go already. It amazes me however that after well over 100 posts that there are still people that are commenting on how this picture is real. A simple skimming and an ounce of common sense will tell you otherwise. If I see another one of those inevitable comments I just don’t know what I’ll do
Oh and I personally don’t find bestiality funny (even if it’s fake). That falls out of my PERSONAL taste of humor and we are all entitled to one. However, it has gone from “fucking” a live goat to beating a dead horse…let it go already. It amazes me however that after well over 100 posts that there are still people that are commenting on how this picture is real. A simple skimming and an ounce of common sense will tell you otherwise. If I see another one of those inevitable comments I just don’t know what I’ll do
vet student – im happy that you stepped up to the plate and gave us some info – thank you.
vet student – im happy that you stepped up to the plate and gave us some info – thank you.
vet student – im happy that you stepped up to the plate and gave us some info – thank you.
vet student – im happy that you stepped up to the plate and gave us some info – thank you.
But what if you take the [animal] out for a nice meal beforehand? Or to a movie or something? I mean, wouldn’t it be a little *rude* on its part if it didn’t put out?
Am I right, fellas?
But what if you take the [animal] out for a nice meal beforehand? Or to a movie or something? I mean, wouldn’t it be a little *rude* on its part if it didn’t put out?
Am I right, fellas?
But what if you take the [animal] out for a nice meal beforehand? Or to a movie or something? I mean, wouldn’t it be a little *rude* on its part if it didn’t put out?
Am I right, fellas?
But what if you take the [animal] out for a nice meal beforehand? Or to a movie or something? I mean, wouldn’t it be a little *rude* on its part if it didn’t put out?
Am I right, fellas?
“baaaah” means no!
“baaaah” means no!
“baaaah” means no!
“baaaah” means no!
For FUCKS SAKE PEOPLE!!!
Its Goat Fucking…
That is funny…
Fucking GOATS is FUNNY!!! (Sheep, not as much)…
And I agree with Jordan that the most offensive part is that not enough people know who Ron Garza is…
The second i saw the picture my first question was, “Is that the Dirty G???”
And it took shifting through a bunch of horse shit about animal cruelty before i could really answer that question…
So get off your high horse people and put your dick in one…
For FUCKS SAKE PEOPLE!!!
Its Goat Fucking…
That is funny…
Fucking GOATS is FUNNY!!! (Sheep, not as much)…
And I agree with Jordan that the most offensive part is that not enough people know who Ron Garza is…
The second i saw the picture my first question was, “Is that the Dirty G???”
And it took shifting through a bunch of horse shit about animal cruelty before i could really answer that question…
So get off your high horse people and put your dick in one…
For FUCKS SAKE PEOPLE!!!
Its Goat Fucking…
That is funny…
Fucking GOATS is FUNNY!!! (Sheep, not as much)…
And I agree with Jordan that the most offensive part is that not enough people know who Ron Garza is…
The second i saw the picture my first question was, “Is that the Dirty G???”
And it took shifting through a bunch of horse shit about animal cruelty before i could really answer that question…
So get off your high horse people and put your dick in one…
For FUCKS SAKE PEOPLE!!!
Its Goat Fucking…
That is funny…
Fucking GOATS is FUNNY!!! (Sheep, not as much)…
And I agree with Jordan that the most offensive part is that not enough people know who Ron Garza is…
The second i saw the picture my first question was, “Is that the Dirty G???”
And it took shifting through a bunch of horse shit about animal cruelty before i could really answer that question…
So get off your high horse people and put your dick in one…
Also, he must be at the Heavy Petting Zoo…
Also, he must be at the Heavy Petting Zoo…
Also, he must be at the Heavy Petting Zoo…
Also, he must be at the Heavy Petting Zoo…
I cant believe people are bitching at shannon for this….ITS A JOKE! if it were real, you should have gathered by now that he wouldnt think it was funny. COME ON KIDS, SERIOUSLY! jeez.
I cant believe people are bitching at shannon for this….ITS A JOKE! if it were real, you should have gathered by now that he wouldnt think it was funny. COME ON KIDS, SERIOUSLY! jeez.
I cant believe people are bitching at shannon for this….ITS A JOKE! if it were real, you should have gathered by now that he wouldnt think it was funny. COME ON KIDS, SERIOUSLY! jeez.
I cant believe people are bitching at shannon for this….ITS A JOKE! if it were real, you should have gathered by now that he wouldnt think it was funny. COME ON KIDS, SERIOUSLY! jeez.
I mean, it’s one thing to fuck some poor, desperate sheep you find hunched over in an alley, lapping up some cud that’s dripped from the mouth of a fallen comrade … that’s just gross.
But if you take one out, treat it to a nice porterhouse and a 1999 Beaujolais, then go home, light some candles, curl up under the covers, pop a little “Love, Actually” in the ol’ DVD player … well, my friends, that sheep is getting fucked, and it’s liking it.
I mean, it’s one thing to fuck some poor, desperate sheep you find hunched over in an alley, lapping up some cud that’s dripped from the mouth of a fallen comrade … that’s just gross.
But if you take one out, treat it to a nice porterhouse and a 1999 Beaujolais, then go home, light some candles, curl up under the covers, pop a little “Love, Actually” in the ol’ DVD player … well, my friends, that sheep is getting fucked, and it’s liking it.
I mean, it’s one thing to fuck some poor, desperate sheep you find hunched over in an alley, lapping up some cud that’s dripped from the mouth of a fallen comrade … that’s just gross.
But if you take one out, treat it to a nice porterhouse and a 1999 Beaujolais, then go home, light some candles, curl up under the covers, pop a little “Love, Actually” in the ol’ DVD player … well, my friends, that sheep is getting fucked, and it’s liking it.
I mean, it’s one thing to fuck some poor, desperate sheep you find hunched over in an alley, lapping up some cud that’s dripped from the mouth of a fallen comrade … that’s just gross.
But if you take one out, treat it to a nice porterhouse and a 1999 Beaujolais, then go home, light some candles, curl up under the covers, pop a little “Love, Actually” in the ol’ DVD player … well, my friends, that sheep is getting fucked, and it’s liking it.
“Shannon maybe you need to get out more and take some time away from the whole body mod thing. Why does BME constantly need to try shock it readers? This is not pushing the limits of what is possible with body mods but rather shows up how jaded and cynical you have really become. Please don’t insult the intelligence of the body mod community with crap like this.
Seriously I have lost all respect for you. ”
To this person, um…..I am almost sure shannon has gotten out a lot more than you. I dont know him personally, but it seems like he’s done plenty travelling and exploring and overall living. And if body mods are something he loves, than why would he try and get away from that? I’ve never found that BME is trying to “shock” me, but assuming it does, why is that even a problem? If it shocks you and you dont like it, dont go to it. Its really not that difficult. I dont think this sites purpose is to push any limits, its more so just a community for people who enjoy body mods and have things in common, just like any community. Calling it jaded and cynical is an assumption, and you shouldnt assume without talking to the person it pertains to, which I’m sure you haven’t done. And about the insult thing? If you are insulted by this JOKE you need to LIGHTEN THE FUCK UP. Seriously, people take things too harsh and personal, thats no way to go through life.
And as for the respect thing, if you’ve lost respect for shannon, i’m sure it will make a difference out of the thousands and thousands of people who have a very high respect for him…its kind of like the the bitch at Wendy’s bitching that she’s never going to wendys again: IT REALLY DOESNT MATTER TO ANYONE ELSE BUT YOU.
“Shannon maybe you need to get out more and take some time away from the whole body mod thing. Why does BME constantly need to try shock it readers? This is not pushing the limits of what is possible with body mods but rather shows up how jaded and cynical you have really become. Please don’t insult the intelligence of the body mod community with crap like this.
Seriously I have lost all respect for you. ”
To this person, um…..I am almost sure shannon has gotten out a lot more than you. I dont know him personally, but it seems like he’s done plenty travelling and exploring and overall living. And if body mods are something he loves, than why would he try and get away from that? I’ve never found that BME is trying to “shock” me, but assuming it does, why is that even a problem? If it shocks you and you dont like it, dont go to it. Its really not that difficult. I dont think this sites purpose is to push any limits, its more so just a community for people who enjoy body mods and have things in common, just like any community. Calling it jaded and cynical is an assumption, and you shouldnt assume without talking to the person it pertains to, which I’m sure you haven’t done. And about the insult thing? If you are insulted by this JOKE you need to LIGHTEN THE FUCK UP. Seriously, people take things too harsh and personal, thats no way to go through life.
And as for the respect thing, if you’ve lost respect for shannon, i’m sure it will make a difference out of the thousands and thousands of people who have a very high respect for him…its kind of like the the bitch at Wendy’s bitching that she’s never going to wendys again: IT REALLY DOESNT MATTER TO ANYONE ELSE BUT YOU.