As you may know, even linking to BME in Germany is illegal, and the German government has already successfully taken legal action againt Google there to have BME removed from the German version of their search engine. I recently received this letter from a friend in Germany:
Bad news for Bodymod Freaks here in Germany. The government decided to redesign our health system. As a part of these changes so called “risk groups” like extreme sports fans or bodymod addicts have to pay any medical treatment they need by themselves, given the trouble is caused by these activities. No [standard] health insurance will cover any kind of problem you could have after a body piercing or a tattoo, not to speak about heavier mods.
So if you should be so unlucky to need very expensive treatment, a surgery maybe, because something went wrong when you got something pierced, you will have to pay thousands of euros (1 Euro is about 1.20 US Dollars) by yourself. If you can’t pay it you’ve got a serious problem. Because no Doctor will help you then.
And they talk about human rights. Yeah. But only rich people are humans to them. Be grateful you don’t live in a country which is ruled exclusively by money bags.
I asked for a little follow up information, but this is a brand new change so there is not much yet:
There is a way to get a health insurance which covers these special risks — but you have to pay 25 Euro (30 US$) extra per month, in addition to your regular health insurance. No matter how much you earn, these 25 will always remain the same. The extra insurance is volontary, but if you don’t have it, it is like I said: No doctor will help you if you get an infection from a piercing or something like that.It would have been a lot better if they offered an insurance you can buy when getting pierced, so a piercing will become more expensive, but you are safe if something goes wrong. Maybe some private insurance company will have this idea some time later, but this will surely take some time.And do-it-yourself piercers, self-modders or people who got an illegal modification done at an underground parlor would be unprotected in this case either.
So currently it looks as if you’ll have to join this extra insurance-fund, paying 25.- extra per moth, if should ever want to get a piercing or try yourself at a BMX offroad bike. All so-called “self-accountable risks” are to be covered in this expensive extra-insurance. If you refuse joining it, you should not risk to do anything dangerous. And a nostril or belly button piercing, as every second girl has it, would be considered dangerous in this context. I don’t know about how they include the standard ear lobe piercings there. 98% of the female population have pierced ears, including many women over 70 years. But as I know German bureaucrats they will make no difference there. Politics and reality are very different things.
So most people, but espeacially the younger ones, will have to pay this extra fee. Everything else would be too risky…
What do you think? Should body modification fans have to pay extra to have healthcare? And if anyone knows more about these changes, please do post them in the comment forum.
Comments
152 responses to “Germany ups the fight on Body Mod”
shannon, i’m with you. obviously it’s a scam based on their bias and not actual information regarding how much modifications cost the healthcare system. (see my comment above where i go into more detail also).
shannon, i’m with you. obviously it’s a scam based on their bias and not actual information regarding how much modifications cost the healthcare system. (see my comment above where i go into more detail also).
shannon, i’m with you. obviously it’s a scam based on their bias and not actual information regarding how much modifications cost the healthcare system. (see my comment above where i go into more detail also).
shannon, i’m with you. obviously it’s a scam based on their bias and not actual information regarding how much modifications cost the healthcare system. (see my comment above where i go into more detail also).
Shannon doesnt this just make you so proud to be a German Canadian? I know I am *rolls eyes*
Shannon doesnt this just make you so proud to be a German Canadian? I know I am *rolls eyes*
Shannon doesnt this just make you so proud to be a German Canadian? I know I am *rolls eyes*
Shannon doesnt this just make you so proud to be a German Canadian? I know I am *rolls eyes*
They should add a freaking $100+ tax for smokers, excessive drinkers, etc, etc. I
f anything, their health problems are more of an issue then a few mildly infected piercings that can be treated with anti-biotics.
They should add a freaking $100+ tax for smokers, excessive drinkers, etc, etc. I
f anything, their health problems are more of an issue then a few mildly infected piercings that can be treated with anti-biotics.
They should add a freaking $100+ tax for smokers, excessive drinkers, etc, etc. I
f anything, their health problems are more of an issue then a few mildly infected piercings that can be treated with anti-biotics.
They should add a freaking $100+ tax for smokers, excessive drinkers, etc, etc. I
f anything, their health problems are more of an issue then a few mildly infected piercings that can be treated with anti-biotics.
It is against everything the concept of “insurance” stands for.
Insurance means a bunch of people pay a fixed amount of money into a pool. This pool will be used to cover costs if something predefined happens to a contributor of thsi pool.
It used to be, that the premium was only determined by the coverage you desire, but as the insurance market changed form growth to redistribution, these concepts got thrown overboard.
It’s not just the modded who have to pay more premium for the same coverage – here are some examples from Switzerlands larges insurer:
– Smokers have to pay more for health ins.
– The elderly have to pay more for health ins.
– Foreigners have to pay more premium for their car ins.
– Youngsters have to pay more for car ins.
– City dwellers have to pay more for health ins.
there’s even a pro-life insurance that charges a higher premium to people who don’t sign that they will never have an abortion.
As a result of this, people try to use up every penny they pay for the insurance. They cheat, they go see their doctor whenever possible, for whatever they can. A lot of people spend a few weeks in clinics, just relaxing and enjoy the walks in the clinics parks – kinda like wellness holiday.
I pay 250$ of healthcare premium every month – and I have pretty much the cheapest coverage there is.
It is against everything the concept of “insurance” stands for.
Insurance means a bunch of people pay a fixed amount of money into a pool. This pool will be used to cover costs if something predefined happens to a contributor of thsi pool.
It used to be, that the premium was only determined by the coverage you desire, but as the insurance market changed form growth to redistribution, these concepts got thrown overboard.
It’s not just the modded who have to pay more premium for the same coverage – here are some examples from Switzerlands larges insurer:
– Smokers have to pay more for health ins.
– The elderly have to pay more for health ins.
– Foreigners have to pay more premium for their car ins.
– Youngsters have to pay more for car ins.
– City dwellers have to pay more for health ins.
there’s even a pro-life insurance that charges a higher premium to people who don’t sign that they will never have an abortion.
As a result of this, people try to use up every penny they pay for the insurance. They cheat, they go see their doctor whenever possible, for whatever they can. A lot of people spend a few weeks in clinics, just relaxing and enjoy the walks in the clinics parks – kinda like wellness holiday.
I pay 250$ of healthcare premium every month – and I have pretty much the cheapest coverage there is.
It is against everything the concept of “insurance” stands for.
Insurance means a bunch of people pay a fixed amount of money into a pool. This pool will be used to cover costs if something predefined happens to a contributor of thsi pool.
It used to be, that the premium was only determined by the coverage you desire, but as the insurance market changed form growth to redistribution, these concepts got thrown overboard.
It’s not just the modded who have to pay more premium for the same coverage – here are some examples from Switzerlands larges insurer:
– Smokers have to pay more for health ins.
– The elderly have to pay more for health ins.
– Foreigners have to pay more premium for their car ins.
– Youngsters have to pay more for car ins.
– City dwellers have to pay more for health ins.
there’s even a pro-life insurance that charges a higher premium to people who don’t sign that they will never have an abortion.
As a result of this, people try to use up every penny they pay for the insurance. They cheat, they go see their doctor whenever possible, for whatever they can. A lot of people spend a few weeks in clinics, just relaxing and enjoy the walks in the clinics parks – kinda like wellness holiday.
I pay 250$ of healthcare premium every month – and I have pretty much the cheapest coverage there is.
It is against everything the concept of “insurance” stands for.
Insurance means a bunch of people pay a fixed amount of money into a pool. This pool will be used to cover costs if something predefined happens to a contributor of thsi pool.
It used to be, that the premium was only determined by the coverage you desire, but as the insurance market changed form growth to redistribution, these concepts got thrown overboard.
It’s not just the modded who have to pay more premium for the same coverage – here are some examples from Switzerlands larges insurer:
– Smokers have to pay more for health ins.
– The elderly have to pay more for health ins.
– Foreigners have to pay more premium for their car ins.
– Youngsters have to pay more for car ins.
– City dwellers have to pay more for health ins.
there’s even a pro-life insurance that charges a higher premium to people who don’t sign that they will never have an abortion.
As a result of this, people try to use up every penny they pay for the insurance. They cheat, they go see their doctor whenever possible, for whatever they can. A lot of people spend a few weeks in clinics, just relaxing and enjoy the walks in the clinics parks – kinda like wellness holiday.
I pay 250$ of healthcare premium every month – and I have pretty much the cheapest coverage there is.
OK, this is to clarify some things:
Read what the WHO has to say about the German national health system here
To quote the WHO:
“In international comparison, the German health care system has a high level of financial resources and physical capacities. The population enjoys equal and easy access to a health care system offering a very comprehensive benefits package at all levels of care; waiting lists and explicit rationing decisions are virtually unknown. There is doubt, however, whether the high spending on health translates into a sufficiently cost-efficient use of resources. Various cost-containment measures – including sectoral budgets, reference prices, rational prescribing and user charges – have kept statutory health expenditure at the level of GDP growth. Yet, since fund revenues grew less than expenditure, sickness funds ran into deficit in most years.”
And it is that (structural) deficit (due mainly to continuing high unemployment) that`s pushing the politicians from one “Gesundheitsreform” to the next, as they have not found a solution to keep the system afloat in times of chronic underfunding. And – thanks to the EU – it is no longer possible to cover the deficit by piling up even more debt (as the current US administration does)…
Our beloved politicians are constantly THINKING about cost-containment measures they could apply to the health system. THINKING, that`s all. What you´describe in your post are maybe the thoughts of some second-rate member of the political establishment that will NEVER be signed into law as it it is a.) unconstitutional and b.) blatantly ignores european union standards – it would be thrown out of the German supreme court as well as be challenged by EU bodies.
That`s also why you can`t come up with verifiable information on it.
OK, this is to clarify some things:
Read what the WHO has to say about the German national health system here
To quote the WHO:
“In international comparison, the German health care system has a high level of financial resources and physical capacities. The population enjoys equal and easy access to a health care system offering a very comprehensive benefits package at all levels of care; waiting lists and explicit rationing decisions are virtually unknown. There is doubt, however, whether the high spending on health translates into a sufficiently cost-efficient use of resources. Various cost-containment measures – including sectoral budgets, reference prices, rational prescribing and user charges – have kept statutory health expenditure at the level of GDP growth. Yet, since fund revenues grew less than expenditure, sickness funds ran into deficit in most years.”
And it is that (structural) deficit (due mainly to continuing high unemployment) that`s pushing the politicians from one “Gesundheitsreform” to the next, as they have not found a solution to keep the system afloat in times of chronic underfunding. And – thanks to the EU – it is no longer possible to cover the deficit by piling up even more debt (as the current US administration does)…
Our beloved politicians are constantly THINKING about cost-containment measures they could apply to the health system. THINKING, that`s all. What you´describe in your post are maybe the thoughts of some second-rate member of the political establishment that will NEVER be signed into law as it it is a.) unconstitutional and b.) blatantly ignores european union standards – it would be thrown out of the German supreme court as well as be challenged by EU bodies.
That`s also why you can`t come up with verifiable information on it.
OK, this is to clarify some things:
Read what the WHO has to say about the German national health system here
To quote the WHO:
“In international comparison, the German health care system has a high level of financial resources and physical capacities. The population enjoys equal and easy access to a health care system offering a very comprehensive benefits package at all levels of care; waiting lists and explicit rationing decisions are virtually unknown. There is doubt, however, whether the high spending on health translates into a sufficiently cost-efficient use of resources. Various cost-containment measures – including sectoral budgets, reference prices, rational prescribing and user charges – have kept statutory health expenditure at the level of GDP growth. Yet, since fund revenues grew less than expenditure, sickness funds ran into deficit in most years.”
And it is that (structural) deficit (due mainly to continuing high unemployment) that`s pushing the politicians from one “Gesundheitsreform” to the next, as they have not found a solution to keep the system afloat in times of chronic underfunding. And – thanks to the EU – it is no longer possible to cover the deficit by piling up even more debt (as the current US administration does)…
Our beloved politicians are constantly THINKING about cost-containment measures they could apply to the health system. THINKING, that`s all. What you´describe in your post are maybe the thoughts of some second-rate member of the political establishment that will NEVER be signed into law as it it is a.) unconstitutional and b.) blatantly ignores european union standards – it would be thrown out of the German supreme court as well as be challenged by EU bodies.
That`s also why you can`t come up with verifiable information on it.
OK, this is to clarify some things:
Read what the WHO has to say about the German national health system here
To quote the WHO:
“In international comparison, the German health care system has a high level of financial resources and physical capacities. The population enjoys equal and easy access to a health care system offering a very comprehensive benefits package at all levels of care; waiting lists and explicit rationing decisions are virtually unknown. There is doubt, however, whether the high spending on health translates into a sufficiently cost-efficient use of resources. Various cost-containment measures – including sectoral budgets, reference prices, rational prescribing and user charges – have kept statutory health expenditure at the level of GDP growth. Yet, since fund revenues grew less than expenditure, sickness funds ran into deficit in most years.”
And it is that (structural) deficit (due mainly to continuing high unemployment) that`s pushing the politicians from one “Gesundheitsreform” to the next, as they have not found a solution to keep the system afloat in times of chronic underfunding. And – thanks to the EU – it is no longer possible to cover the deficit by piling up even more debt (as the current US administration does)…
Our beloved politicians are constantly THINKING about cost-containment measures they could apply to the health system. THINKING, that`s all. What you´describe in your post are maybe the thoughts of some second-rate member of the political establishment that will NEVER be signed into law as it it is a.) unconstitutional and b.) blatantly ignores european union standards – it would be thrown out of the German supreme court as well as be challenged by EU bodies.
That`s also why you can`t come up with verifiable information on it.
Okay, I didn’t get to read all of this discussion, but a few notes on German healthcare: Everybody who works in Germany automatically pays into the public healthcare systems through their employer. Same goes for everyone on welfare, where the state basically pays into the public healthcare… (yay, Bureaucracy!)
There are a few people to whom neither applies, and they have to get “volontarily” insured, but seriously: I don’t even know if you can just go and pay a doctor in Germany, I somehow doubt it, except for certain procedures that aren’t seen as neccessary (for example, i had to fork out 600€ to get sterilized)
There are about 50 different public insurances. Typically German, a whopping 80% of their income (in the form of eveyrbody’s fees) gopes into their own gigantic bureaucratic apparatus.
There are private insurances, which provide better service, but they work differently. You have to pay all the bills and then hand them in to the insurance. So a lot of peniless students are in the absurd situation of being on their parent’s private insurance (actually something reserved for the rich or government- or self employed) and for that reason can’t afford to see a doctor….
For years now, our government has been systematically ruining the public healthcare system (really, there’s no other way to put it)
This brings with it a political climate of “everyone for themself”
While the media single out welfare receivers, immigrants and other marginalized groups as the ones breaking the social net by “over using” it, the government and all public institutions try to save money where they can.
I think the new regulation (I have no idea if it’s even in effect yet) can be seen in that context rather than a crusade against the modded subcultures.
I was actually surprised, not to say shocked, by the German ban on BME, because both travelling and talking to people from all over the world, i keep thinking there are few better places to be modded in than Germany. Tsk.
Okay, I didn’t get to read all of this discussion, but a few notes on German healthcare: Everybody who works in Germany automatically pays into the public healthcare systems through their employer. Same goes for everyone on welfare, where the state basically pays into the public healthcare… (yay, Bureaucracy!)
There are a few people to whom neither applies, and they have to get “volontarily” insured, but seriously: I don’t even know if you can just go and pay a doctor in Germany, I somehow doubt it, except for certain procedures that aren’t seen as neccessary (for example, i had to fork out 600€ to get sterilized)
There are about 50 different public insurances. Typically German, a whopping 80% of their income (in the form of eveyrbody’s fees) gopes into their own gigantic bureaucratic apparatus.
There are private insurances, which provide better service, but they work differently. You have to pay all the bills and then hand them in to the insurance. So a lot of peniless students are in the absurd situation of being on their parent’s private insurance (actually something reserved for the rich or government- or self employed) and for that reason can’t afford to see a doctor….
For years now, our government has been systematically ruining the public healthcare system (really, there’s no other way to put it)
This brings with it a political climate of “everyone for themself”
While the media single out welfare receivers, immigrants and other marginalized groups as the ones breaking the social net by “over using” it, the government and all public institutions try to save money where they can.
I think the new regulation (I have no idea if it’s even in effect yet) can be seen in that context rather than a crusade against the modded subcultures.
I was actually surprised, not to say shocked, by the German ban on BME, because both travelling and talking to people from all over the world, i keep thinking there are few better places to be modded in than Germany. Tsk.
Okay, I didn’t get to read all of this discussion, but a few notes on German healthcare: Everybody who works in Germany automatically pays into the public healthcare systems through their employer. Same goes for everyone on welfare, where the state basically pays into the public healthcare… (yay, Bureaucracy!)
There are a few people to whom neither applies, and they have to get “volontarily” insured, but seriously: I don’t even know if you can just go and pay a doctor in Germany, I somehow doubt it, except for certain procedures that aren’t seen as neccessary (for example, i had to fork out 600€ to get sterilized)
There are about 50 different public insurances. Typically German, a whopping 80% of their income (in the form of eveyrbody’s fees) gopes into their own gigantic bureaucratic apparatus.
There are private insurances, which provide better service, but they work differently. You have to pay all the bills and then hand them in to the insurance. So a lot of peniless students are in the absurd situation of being on their parent’s private insurance (actually something reserved for the rich or government- or self employed) and for that reason can’t afford to see a doctor….
For years now, our government has been systematically ruining the public healthcare system (really, there’s no other way to put it)
This brings with it a political climate of “everyone for themself”
While the media single out welfare receivers, immigrants and other marginalized groups as the ones breaking the social net by “over using” it, the government and all public institutions try to save money where they can.
I think the new regulation (I have no idea if it’s even in effect yet) can be seen in that context rather than a crusade against the modded subcultures.
I was actually surprised, not to say shocked, by the German ban on BME, because both travelling and talking to people from all over the world, i keep thinking there are few better places to be modded in than Germany. Tsk.
Okay, I didn’t get to read all of this discussion, but a few notes on German healthcare: Everybody who works in Germany automatically pays into the public healthcare systems through their employer. Same goes for everyone on welfare, where the state basically pays into the public healthcare… (yay, Bureaucracy!)
There are a few people to whom neither applies, and they have to get “volontarily” insured, but seriously: I don’t even know if you can just go and pay a doctor in Germany, I somehow doubt it, except for certain procedures that aren’t seen as neccessary (for example, i had to fork out 600€ to get sterilized)
There are about 50 different public insurances. Typically German, a whopping 80% of their income (in the form of eveyrbody’s fees) gopes into their own gigantic bureaucratic apparatus.
There are private insurances, which provide better service, but they work differently. You have to pay all the bills and then hand them in to the insurance. So a lot of peniless students are in the absurd situation of being on their parent’s private insurance (actually something reserved for the rich or government- or self employed) and for that reason can’t afford to see a doctor….
For years now, our government has been systematically ruining the public healthcare system (really, there’s no other way to put it)
This brings with it a political climate of “everyone for themself”
While the media single out welfare receivers, immigrants and other marginalized groups as the ones breaking the social net by “over using” it, the government and all public institutions try to save money where they can.
I think the new regulation (I have no idea if it’s even in effect yet) can be seen in that context rather than a crusade against the modded subcultures.
I was actually surprised, not to say shocked, by the German ban on BME, because both travelling and talking to people from all over the world, i keep thinking there are few better places to be modded in than Germany. Tsk.
Oh and by the way: I never even heard about that law until now, but next time I see him, I’ll gladly ask my piercer 🙂
Oh and by the way: I never even heard about that law until now, but next time I see him, I’ll gladly ask my piercer 🙂
Oh and by the way: I never even heard about that law until now, but next time I see him, I’ll gladly ask my piercer 🙂
Oh and by the way: I never even heard about that law until now, but next time I see him, I’ll gladly ask my piercer 🙂
Risk Management like that is already reality in alot of other countries. You should not forget to mention that in germany hospitals HELP and take care of EVERYONE who calls an ambulance or comes in with whatever problem. Nobody is turned down because of having no insurance or can’t pay. Plus you ALWAYS get the best care available. From my personal experience I can tell the system in the US and Thailand (these I know first hand) are WAY WORSE! Also I don’t like that speculative attitude of the article that left all the “social aspects” of the german health system out. The changes right now are bad because they only fight the symptoms and not the real problems but still germany is a safe place to live where you don’t have to fear to die just because you’re poor or temporarily out of money!
Risk Management like that is already reality in alot of other countries. You should not forget to mention that in germany hospitals HELP and take care of EVERYONE who calls an ambulance or comes in with whatever problem. Nobody is turned down because of having no insurance or can’t pay. Plus you ALWAYS get the best care available. From my personal experience I can tell the system in the US and Thailand (these I know first hand) are WAY WORSE! Also I don’t like that speculative attitude of the article that left all the “social aspects” of the german health system out. The changes right now are bad because they only fight the symptoms and not the real problems but still germany is a safe place to live where you don’t have to fear to die just because you’re poor or temporarily out of money!
Risk Management like that is already reality in alot of other countries. You should not forget to mention that in germany hospitals HELP and take care of EVERYONE who calls an ambulance or comes in with whatever problem. Nobody is turned down because of having no insurance or can’t pay. Plus you ALWAYS get the best care available. From my personal experience I can tell the system in the US and Thailand (these I know first hand) are WAY WORSE! Also I don’t like that speculative attitude of the article that left all the “social aspects” of the german health system out. The changes right now are bad because they only fight the symptoms and not the real problems but still germany is a safe place to live where you don’t have to fear to die just because you’re poor or temporarily out of money!
Risk Management like that is already reality in alot of other countries. You should not forget to mention that in germany hospitals HELP and take care of EVERYONE who calls an ambulance or comes in with whatever problem. Nobody is turned down because of having no insurance or can’t pay. Plus you ALWAYS get the best care available. From my personal experience I can tell the system in the US and Thailand (these I know first hand) are WAY WORSE! Also I don’t like that speculative attitude of the article that left all the “social aspects” of the german health system out. The changes right now are bad because they only fight the symptoms and not the real problems but still germany is a safe place to live where you don’t have to fear to die just because you’re poor or temporarily out of money!
Hy Shannon!
As a German i think, that’s no fight against bodymod!
But the germain health-system is very comfortable and is always much more difficult to finance. So it’s logical, especial riscs to finance by especial contributions. When i make mods (splitting my cock for example), i have to use many care! or have to insure before it’s done. Otherwise, if something goes wrong, i have to pay the doctors help by myself!
At present it doesn’t still go at this way.l
I think it’s fair, that’s the community can’t finance all our riscs, lived and practified desires, stupidities and crazy thinks!
An IMPORTAND RULE for all body modders : Let it BLEED GOOD and ENOUGH for wound-cleaning, than you will have no or less infection!!!
Good luck!
Hy Shannon!
As a German i think, that’s no fight against bodymod!
But the germain health-system is very comfortable and is always much more difficult to finance. So it’s logical, especial riscs to finance by especial contributions. When i make mods (splitting my cock for example), i have to use many care! or have to insure before it’s done. Otherwise, if something goes wrong, i have to pay the doctors help by myself!
At present it doesn’t still go at this way.l
I think it’s fair, that’s the community can’t finance all our riscs, lived and practified desires, stupidities and crazy thinks!
An IMPORTAND RULE for all body modders : Let it BLEED GOOD and ENOUGH for wound-cleaning, than you will have no or less infection!!!
Good luck!
Hy Shannon!
As a German i think, that’s no fight against bodymod!
But the germain health-system is very comfortable and is always much more difficult to finance. So it’s logical, especial riscs to finance by especial contributions. When i make mods (splitting my cock for example), i have to use many care! or have to insure before it’s done. Otherwise, if something goes wrong, i have to pay the doctors help by myself!
At present it doesn’t still go at this way.l
I think it’s fair, that’s the community can’t finance all our riscs, lived and practified desires, stupidities and crazy thinks!
An IMPORTAND RULE for all body modders : Let it BLEED GOOD and ENOUGH for wound-cleaning, than you will have no or less infection!!!
Good luck!
Hy Shannon!
As a German i think, that’s no fight against bodymod!
But the germain health-system is very comfortable and is always much more difficult to finance. So it’s logical, especial riscs to finance by especial contributions. When i make mods (splitting my cock for example), i have to use many care! or have to insure before it’s done. Otherwise, if something goes wrong, i have to pay the doctors help by myself!
At present it doesn’t still go at this way.l
I think it’s fair, that’s the community can’t finance all our riscs, lived and practified desires, stupidities and crazy thinks!
An IMPORTAND RULE for all body modders : Let it BLEED GOOD and ENOUGH for wound-cleaning, than you will have no or less infection!!!
Good luck!
Here’s another German thinking about that.
I can’t tell so much about our Health Care System blah, but I think it’s rubbish. People have to pay more and more, for no visible purpose (in case I’m not too young and stupid to see that).
Something I consider weird is that once, when I was totally drunk (not dangerously, though.), the ambulance someone called was there after about 20 minutes, but when my best friend was pregnant and had a sudden and heavy pain that made her fear she could lose her baby, we went to hospital and they told us we should go here and there and through the whole hospital, which took us ages, really. and then when we found a place they would try to find what was wrong (luckily it was nothing dangerous, but hell she suffered!!), we still had half an hour of time to wait.
But anyway, I think that’s not it.
I read some articles about this case and it seems, it was more about moral stuff. Naked bodies etc.. Germany’s not a country of prudes, except for some parts of the government, and that’s it, i suppose.
A stupid action. At least BME is a way to learn about body-modding, what it can look like, what can happen etc…
Most young people here don’t know anything. Young girls piercing themselves using a dirty safety pin just scare me.
And you can get your ears pierced at the hairdresser’s. when i was about 7 years old, my mother told me to do that. but any other piercings “are ugly and self-destructive” she said.
I think many people have that opinion. strange.
A good piercer knows what he’s doing, not like a hairdresser with a piercing-gun. so that “standard-piercing” might be more of a risk than a body piercing (wherever..) done by a person knowing his/he business..
Just random thinking, sorry.
Here’s another German thinking about that.
I can’t tell so much about our Health Care System blah, but I think it’s rubbish. People have to pay more and more, for no visible purpose (in case I’m not too young and stupid to see that).
Something I consider weird is that once, when I was totally drunk (not dangerously, though.), the ambulance someone called was there after about 20 minutes, but when my best friend was pregnant and had a sudden and heavy pain that made her fear she could lose her baby, we went to hospital and they told us we should go here and there and through the whole hospital, which took us ages, really. and then when we found a place they would try to find what was wrong (luckily it was nothing dangerous, but hell she suffered!!), we still had half an hour of time to wait.
But anyway, I think that’s not it.
I read some articles about this case and it seems, it was more about moral stuff. Naked bodies etc.. Germany’s not a country of prudes, except for some parts of the government, and that’s it, i suppose.
A stupid action. At least BME is a way to learn about body-modding, what it can look like, what can happen etc…
Most young people here don’t know anything. Young girls piercing themselves using a dirty safety pin just scare me.
And you can get your ears pierced at the hairdresser’s. when i was about 7 years old, my mother told me to do that. but any other piercings “are ugly and self-destructive” she said.
I think many people have that opinion. strange.
A good piercer knows what he’s doing, not like a hairdresser with a piercing-gun. so that “standard-piercing” might be more of a risk than a body piercing (wherever..) done by a person knowing his/he business..
Just random thinking, sorry.
Here’s another German thinking about that.
I can’t tell so much about our Health Care System blah, but I think it’s rubbish. People have to pay more and more, for no visible purpose (in case I’m not too young and stupid to see that).
Something I consider weird is that once, when I was totally drunk (not dangerously, though.), the ambulance someone called was there after about 20 minutes, but when my best friend was pregnant and had a sudden and heavy pain that made her fear she could lose her baby, we went to hospital and they told us we should go here and there and through the whole hospital, which took us ages, really. and then when we found a place they would try to find what was wrong (luckily it was nothing dangerous, but hell she suffered!!), we still had half an hour of time to wait.
But anyway, I think that’s not it.
I read some articles about this case and it seems, it was more about moral stuff. Naked bodies etc.. Germany’s not a country of prudes, except for some parts of the government, and that’s it, i suppose.
A stupid action. At least BME is a way to learn about body-modding, what it can look like, what can happen etc…
Most young people here don’t know anything. Young girls piercing themselves using a dirty safety pin just scare me.
And you can get your ears pierced at the hairdresser’s. when i was about 7 years old, my mother told me to do that. but any other piercings “are ugly and self-destructive” she said.
I think many people have that opinion. strange.
A good piercer knows what he’s doing, not like a hairdresser with a piercing-gun. so that “standard-piercing” might be more of a risk than a body piercing (wherever..) done by a person knowing his/he business..
Just random thinking, sorry.
Here’s another German thinking about that.
I can’t tell so much about our Health Care System blah, but I think it’s rubbish. People have to pay more and more, for no visible purpose (in case I’m not too young and stupid to see that).
Something I consider weird is that once, when I was totally drunk (not dangerously, though.), the ambulance someone called was there after about 20 minutes, but when my best friend was pregnant and had a sudden and heavy pain that made her fear she could lose her baby, we went to hospital and they told us we should go here and there and through the whole hospital, which took us ages, really. and then when we found a place they would try to find what was wrong (luckily it was nothing dangerous, but hell she suffered!!), we still had half an hour of time to wait.
But anyway, I think that’s not it.
I read some articles about this case and it seems, it was more about moral stuff. Naked bodies etc.. Germany’s not a country of prudes, except for some parts of the government, and that’s it, i suppose.
A stupid action. At least BME is a way to learn about body-modding, what it can look like, what can happen etc…
Most young people here don’t know anything. Young girls piercing themselves using a dirty safety pin just scare me.
And you can get your ears pierced at the hairdresser’s. when i was about 7 years old, my mother told me to do that. but any other piercings “are ugly and self-destructive” she said.
I think many people have that opinion. strange.
A good piercer knows what he’s doing, not like a hairdresser with a piercing-gun. so that “standard-piercing” might be more of a risk than a body piercing (wherever..) done by a person knowing his/he business..
Just random thinking, sorry.
bumsen germany the bumsender sucks.
bumsen germany the bumsender sucks.
bumsen germany the bumsender sucks.
bumsen germany the bumsender sucks.
The post I am commenting is only half true. Here in Germany any doctor has to treat you if you are in an emergancy situation and even if you don´t have an insurance any public hospital has to treat you, you will just have to pay the (pricy) bill by your self. In any case all medical treatments (except some procedures at the orthodontist) are being payed for (totaly or partially) by any public insurance only the private insurances may refuse to pay for certain procedures, but you would know this, since it would be stated in your contract.
Also if you go on http://www.google.de and type in bmezine you will get a positive result.
The post I am commenting is only half true. Here in Germany any doctor has to treat you if you are in an emergancy situation and even if you don´t have an insurance any public hospital has to treat you, you will just have to pay the (pricy) bill by your self. In any case all medical treatments (except some procedures at the orthodontist) are being payed for (totaly or partially) by any public insurance only the private insurances may refuse to pay for certain procedures, but you would know this, since it would be stated in your contract.
Also if you go on http://www.google.de and type in bmezine you will get a positive result.
The post I am commenting is only half true. Here in Germany any doctor has to treat you if you are in an emergancy situation and even if you don´t have an insurance any public hospital has to treat you, you will just have to pay the (pricy) bill by your self. In any case all medical treatments (except some procedures at the orthodontist) are being payed for (totaly or partially) by any public insurance only the private insurances may refuse to pay for certain procedures, but you would know this, since it would be stated in your contract.
Also if you go on http://www.google.de and type in bmezine you will get a positive result.
The post I am commenting is only half true. Here in Germany any doctor has to treat you if you are in an emergancy situation and even if you don´t have an insurance any public hospital has to treat you, you will just have to pay the (pricy) bill by your self. In any case all medical treatments (except some procedures at the orthodontist) are being payed for (totaly or partially) by any public insurance only the private insurances may refuse to pay for certain procedures, but you would know this, since it would be stated in your contract.
Also if you go on http://www.google.de and type in bmezine you will get a positive result.
i don’t know much about the subject, since the health care system here is so efficient-you barely hear about it!but to all the people mentioning that smokers should pay more insurance; they do! 1 euro of every pack of cigarettes go to the public insurances.
i don’t know much about the subject, since the health care system here is so efficient-you barely hear about it!but to all the people mentioning that smokers should pay more insurance; they do! 1 euro of every pack of cigarettes go to the public insurances.